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not saying you’re wrong, but that is a whataboutism

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No, it isn’t. Whataboutism is pointing to a different wrong as a way to dismiss a currently discussed wrong. This is using someone’s past actions as a reason they shouldn’t be trusted in their current statement. It’s a legitimate attack on the speaker’s ethos.

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but it functions as a whataboutism. it doesn’t address the original concerns of the statement. instead it uses an ad hominem attach to discredit the argument

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If this were a debate he’s making an argument that he’s denied the underlying principle of: eg arguing the “sky is blue” after saying “blue doesn’t exist”. I’m pointing out that this is a nonsensical statement in the context it was given.

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This is not a whataboutism, this is calling someone out, and their party out, for their hypocrisy.

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but it functions as a whataboutism. it doesn’t address the original concerns of the statement. instead it uses an ad hominem attach to discredit the argument

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And your whining about a whataboutism is itself a red herring. It’s dragging the point away from what it was originally.

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it doesn’t address the original concerns of the statement

Yes, it does. The statements concerns were bullshit fakery, as proven by the points given.

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This is gaslighting

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