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Looks like this is the beginning of scaled production, though.

Production is a tiny link in the supply chain.

According to the article they’ve sent them to manufacturers for testing and that’s it.

Even if they were able to make them they’d still be impossibly expensive for decades, as the implications of such a technology would be gargantuan.

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Nah, see the battery density graph here. Batteries have made great progress already, and it’s accelerating because suddenly there are trillions of dollars on the line for anyone that can make big strides in battery technology.

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Nah, see the battery density graph

Yah, I see your battery density graph and the batteries in question would blow a hole in that chart:

Samsung’s oxide solid-state battery technology boasts an energy density of 500 Wh/kg, nearly double the 270 Wh/kg density of mainstream EV batteries.

That’s without even getting into the charging rates, which are impossible because you can’t even deliver power to the car at that rate, even if it could take it.

suddenly there are trillions of dollars on the line for anyone that can make big strides in battery technology.

What makes you think that’s “sudden”?

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Yah, I see your battery density graph and the batteries in question would blow a hole in that chart, and several charts above it.

I’m not sure if we are looking at the same chart. The chart goes up to 500 Wh/kg, the same as this new Samsung battery as per the original article. It’s may well be the same battery that gives the chart that value, but notice the years prior it gets higher and higher up to that value.

It might be 10 years away from being the mainstream battery but the battery technology that was 10 years away 9 years ago is almost here.

What makes you think that’s “sudden”?

I was meaning how EVs created a consumer market for huge batteries where prior to that the biggest battery in your house might have been a power tool. But you’re right, there was a premium market for emerging battery tech and it increases along a scale like anything else.

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There is a solid state sodium battery factory being built in Japan, I think, and one in America. (Yes, I mixed up my two battery technologies, a common problem in a stagnant field…) But yes, real life isn’t a game, you can’t immediately use new tech as soon as it becomes viable, and factories take time to build. That doesn’t mean that advances haven’t been constantly occurring, just like advances continued to occur with NiMH battery technology a decade after lithium was mainstream. Partly, no doubt, because factories are expensive, they take time to build, and companies like to maximize the profits from their investments.

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