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The time of reformism is over. Almost all parties which had indeed provided reforms for the working class in the past are now straight pushing counter-reforms.

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That’s what I keep mentioning. I’ll bring up the fact that Walz or Kamala isn’t likely to give union workers or any worker better benefits. Reproductive rights are awesome; but when the supreme court is stacked with ghouls and we have state legislatures anyways…a president with that power isn’t going to be able to do much if a state goes full reproductive nazi. I think the liberals purposefully ignore the fact that the supreme court can literally dismantle any electoral plan that comes up to actually benefit the average person.

Or they just know that and are purposefully playing blind to it.

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Or they just know that and are purposefully playing blind to it.

I know what you mean. Often it is hard to see if one person is purposefully blind or like really don’t understand it.

Often it is like if they don’t care for history, ignoring what happened before. “Before” not in the sense of two weeks, but years, decades etc. I often stop arguing at such points, because it is exhausting to explain history. Regarding agitation this is ofc important, but Jesus Christ you need 100 more times to show them why they are false, when they need 10 seconds to write the weirdest shit.

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Yup. Doesn’t even have to be past history. You can point right now that they aren’t putting a single finger up against the genocide and they’ll start brunching and calling you a single-issue purity tester and report everything you say. Half of them straight up accept and embrace the brain-worms while the other half is taken for a ride because they’re so insulated from other takes by their own smugness, echo chambers and failure to yes, read into the past.

In the entire time I’ve been organizing, been online, etc I have a handful of liberals I’ve managed to convince rather than the far more reactionaries that expanded their way of thinking when I present them with alternatives. It is fucked up when I’ve had conservatives and libertarians be more open-minded and accepting of socialist views when presented properly and mindfully.

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