Do dummies actually think she’s more “radical” than Biden? Maybe if we beg madam hard enough she’ll give us healthcare!

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It does make me wonder why folks like that protest at Harris events but not Trump events, given what Trump has said about how he’d handle Palestine.

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They think they can maybe sway Harris/the dems in general. Not unreasonable, seeing as IIRC they stand to potentially lose Michigan due to its (relatively) large muslim community which will likely have reduced turnout if her policies stay the same.

There is no convincing Trump or the repubs. Their voter base LOVES genocide. The only people who aren’t onboard are some of the more extreme neo-nazis, who only disagree because they hate jews (I note here that Israel is not representative of all jews, and to claim so is anti-semitic, but these are neo-nazis) more than they hate muslims.

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Sway them into what? A Trump victory?

Edit: Oh okay. You think these protestors can stop Harris from funding Israel. But any leftist who points out how pointless it is to convince neoliberals to not do neoliberal things is… a neoliberal?

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I know this is exceedingly hard for liberals to understand as the only thing they stand for is a status quo where they aren’t challenged to think about anything beyond their order on the brunch menu, but there are many living, breathing, thinking human beings who are opposed to genocides and wish to see them stopped even if it’s being executed and/or funded by the country they live in.

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Don’t think of it from a harm-reduction mindset. If YOU don’t vote for somebody against genocide, then YOU lose to Trump. It’s not on us for having a sense of what is right/wrong in the world.

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The protestors want to pressure Harris/the dems so that they stop providing unlimited aid to Israel’s ongoing genocide. Do you think that cutting aid to Israel would cost the dems more electorally than wholeheartedly enabling the genocide would?

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Is there anything Kamala or Biden could do you would consider a valid reason not to vote for either of them? If Biden literally shot a Palestinian child in the face on stage, would that do it? What about SAing a Palestinian?

I ask because realistically speaking doing these would lose the Dems the election, and yet the genocide is exactly this except in the thousands. You’d never expect people to vote for either of these people if they publicly did something heinous, and yet the genocide is exactly something heinous, just not as in your face as the president doing it on stage.

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Do you not perceive the entire Democrat establishment giving full throated support of a genocide while endorsing college kids getting the shit kicked out of them and moving to the right of Trump on immigration as the death knell of the party? Yeah the DNC might exist as an entity for the next 100 years but you’re delusional if you think that there is anything there other than “But Trump is worse” to offer people. Harris has been abandoning any policies that even hint at being progressive at a break neck pace and has made it painfully clear to anyone actually paying attention that there is zero daylight between her and Biden. They can’t even pretend to care about immigrants anymore and are falling back to “Well yes we haven’t actually done anything to defend women or LGBTQ rights but at least we’re not actively trying to murder them.”

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because Harris says one thing and does the opposite, while trump straight up says he supports the genocide.

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That doesn’t strike you as naive? Believing the USA of all countries will stop funding Israel because of protestors?

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Protests ended Jim Crow and helped stop the Vietnam war and highlighted police brutality that finally caused convictions, why not defunding Israel?

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It is, but at least the peoples doing that are trying to stand up to the genocide machine unlike you bootlickers.

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The best way I’ve heard it described is like this: Republicans are werewolves outside the cabin openly howling for blood. I expect no consideration from them.

Liberals are other humans in the cabin with us who, despite professing to hate and fear the werewolves, refuse to hand over the silver bullets or lock any doors. I have been told that they want what I want, so their constant capitulation to the werewolves’ demands arouses baffled frustration.

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Republicans don’t even try to pretend to give a fuck about anyone that’s not white/cis/male/straight/ Christian/ western.

Unlike Democrats who have made it their identity

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