To clarify, the pictured poster Caroline Kwan is an ally, not a TERF. The TERFs referred to in the title are the ones ‘protecting a very specific idea of what a woman is’

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By naturally occurring I mean w/o the use of drugs/doping/surgery.

Without discussing the sex/gender side of this argument; I don’t understand why you’re not applying the same logic to freakishly dominant male athletes?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2009/02/does-michael-phelps-lung-capacity-allow-him-to-take-monster-bong-hits.html

We measured lung capacity in biology class in the ninth grade, and I had the largest of the class. Six liters. Most guys were around 5.5l.

Phelps has twelve.

And there’s a ton of scientific studies about Usain Bolt.

I understand your point, but would the same logic not be applicable, even if the “unnatural” (they’re very natural but you get the point, that’s why the quotations) physical traits for Phelps and Bolt aren’t necessarily as significant as having very high testosterone levels in a women’s league?

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Apologies I meant the person you were originally replying to. I can see it being ambiguous.

I agree with you, this argument is dumb, sexist, and not fair.

I’m just saying this is just not a good forum to handle it.

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