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This.

Additionally, the nazis built infrastructure (trains, KZs, …) just to kill Jews. They optimized it to maximize the amount of Jews to bring into KZs, they built the infamous gas showers and gas chambers to be able to kill more people more efficiently.

They industrialized genocide.

While there were many cruel mass murders, this industrialization thing makes it unique so far.

Greetings from a fellow German.

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Israel has literally done this though.

By all means, it’s a Palestinian holocaust.

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They have built infrastructure explicitly for murdering gazans at an industrial pace?

They shipped in gazans from around Europe? Wow I hadn’t heard any of this. Is Goebbels involved, too?

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Yes they have industrialized it. But you seem to have some pedantic definition of industrialized mass murder that somehow only applies to Jews. Got it. ;)

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“Additionally, the Zionists built infrastructure (separation walls, checkpoints, expanding settlements) just to kill Palestinians. They optimized it to maximize the amount of Palestinians to bring into Gaza (an open air prison) or overcrowded Israeli jails, they built the infamous AI targeting systems and have gotten the biggest imprecise missiles they could find to be able to kill more people more efficiently. On top of that, they completely cut off supplies and destroyed all universities and many hospitlas water facilities in the open air prison they crowded Palestinians too”.

  • Remember, most of Gaza are refugees from other parts of Palestine who were already to Gaza. Gaza is Israel’s current genocide infrastructure just like concentration camps were the genocide infrastructure built to kill Jews in Europe.
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I had a relationship with a German some years ago. I was told that there was some kind of collective punishment (my words) still going on because of WW2. That Germany still felt responsible, and pushed that responsibility onto the next generation, a generation with no relation to WW2 other than being born in Germany.

Why can’t the older generation let the next generation move on without inheriting their burden?

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This is an agenda pushed by the right. They don’t understand the difference between guilt / responsibility for what happened and responsibility to not let it happen again.

We are not guilty nor responsible for what happened during WW2, but we are responsible to not let it ever happen again.

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It is not “pushed onto us”. Its important to remember what happend in order to tell the signs and stop it from happening ever again. The narrative of “We are not responsible for it anymore and shouldn’t feel any guilt” is a narrative mostly used by german right-wing conservatists trying to erase this part of our history out of the books and education.

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Because everything doable has to be done to prevent something like this from happening ever again. Feeling some guilt is a small price to pay. Sincerely, a German

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Does it though? Seems like it produces a weird emotional response and lots of hot air. Guilt doesn’t seem healthy nor useful nor effective in stoping future genocides.

Otherwise we would have seen a better response from the German government who should have felt guilty enough about the holocaust to prevent one from happening in Gaza. Instead, they pledge support to Israel. Cool. Very “guilty” indeed.

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