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The phones have highly optimized functions to listen to keywords. That’s the reason why you can’t change “OK Google” to “OK Jarvis” or whatever you want. Your phone needs to do this locally without wasting battery.

Until the keywords get said the listening is extremely basic. As soon as you say the keywords then the full audio processing kicks in, often including sending what you say to a server.

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The phones have highly optimized functions to listen to keywords. That’s the reason why you can’t change “OK Google” to “OK Jarvis” or whatever you want.

Well, I’d argue that you can’t change “OK Google” because that’s a great form of advertising. I’ve even seen movies where they use “Hey Siri” or “Alexa” as a product placement.

Your phone needs to do this locally without wasting battery.

For sure.

That doesn’t mean they don’t “accidentally” record completely irrelevant conversations.

And that also doesn’t mean that what it does record isn’t being aggregated so you can be marketed to.

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There have been plenty of tests where CPU and network usage were monitored with one phone.

Once in a quiet soundproof room compared to sitting next to a conversation.

Zero difference.

Recording and parsing audio would kill your battery. And it’s not necessary when most people freely provide their data when using Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, …

There has been zero proof about illegal recording, even though it would be easy to find.

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Perhaps we’re misunderstanding something.

It’s a fact that plenty of devices have assistant software running 24/7, with an open mic. We can agree that the key phrase is detected locally via some low-power chip or something similar.

I’m saying that these virtual assistants are capturing and saving recordings, even when they aren’t explicit commands. Those recordings can then be used to further profile a user.

Mozilla even says that Amazon claims that they can delete recordings, but will continue to use data collected by the user from those recordings, despite that. This is a problem, IMO, and it can certainly explain many of these coincidences that people are witnessing.

There has been zero proof about illegal recording, even though it would be easy to find.

Except that Amazon has had to pay out $25 million for keeping kid’s recordings.

And the State of Texas has sued Google for illegally collecting voice-data.

California has also certified several class-action lawsuits against google for illegally recording and using conversations without consent.

Or that Apple was caught secretly recording voice conversations, even when the user opted-out.. Apple claimed this was a “bug”. LOL

There are so many cases like this, that we know of. I can’t imagine how many of these privacy nightmare we haven’t been made aware of.

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