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Billionaires want all the money, fuck everyone else.

This seems very naive to me. In my experience, everyone wants all the money, fuck everyone else. Including my fellow working class. All of them. Every single one.

Siding with billionaires

I see no sides. I see no difference in kind between billionaires, my boss, my co-workers, my neighbours, homeless people, members of the local labour club, you, me or anyone. We’re all human beings and we all prioritise our own wellbeing over the wellbeing of others. Cooperation in society and ruthless greed are not mutually exclusive. Humans will cooperate when it’s beneficial and also stab their fellow humans in the back, step on them and exploit them when it’s beneficial.

you want to be fucked over by someone who has no care for you

That’s ridiculous, nobody wants that.

There’s no allegiance to a class it’s just something that is

If is there is no allegiance then there can be no traitor.

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You are quite wrong. Most want enough money to be content in life. Billionaires want to sit on their dragon hoard of wealth, while shafting those on the bottom line. If you see no sides then you are very ignorant. And no difference between the homeless and billionaires. Yeah fucking right. Billionaires get to just buy companies because they can, spend shit loads on lobbying for things they want. All while homeless people are fucked in a hundred ways. Its disgusting how many anti-homeless measures are being made. Just another reason hoarding wealth fucks everyone over. Humans also rape, lie, steal, murder, etc… we work hard to jail and rehabilitate these people. So maybe we need to do it to the extremely wealth. Nobody wants to be fucked over, obviously. But that is what is happening. Again ignorance is bliss. Generations don’t exist, we just use it to generalize age groups. Classes don’t exist, yet we use them to describe wealth groups. Genders don’t exist, yet we use them to describe people. In every single case you can still be a traitor to something that groups you. I can be trans and say that all trans people (except me) are not valid, that would make me a traitor and a TERF. There are not always allegiances to ideas meant to group people. If you are not in the extremely wealthy class, then defending them is betraying what you are.

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Billionaires want to sit on their dragon hoard of wealth

Having wealth and hoarding wealth aren’t the same thing. Hoarding implies isolation and withheld access. Someone keeping money under their mattress is hoarding that money. Someone who is investing in businesses in active operation within the economy is doing the exact opposite of hoarding.

Stop misusing this term.

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There’s only a few ways to become a billionaire. Get money, get more money, and get even more money. Also be born into a family with lots of money. Just because some of that money is in assets, bonds, stocks, and such doesn’t mean that they don’t hoard the wealth. Investing in businesses only makes the stock holders richer it doesn’t trickle down. You don’t have to just shove it into a bank. The extremely wealthy don’t hoard money in a big pile, they just want to see their net worth go up. So I’m not misusing the term hoarding, you just seem to not understand how the economy works.

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You are quite wrong.

I disagree.

Most want enough money to be content in life. Billionaires want to sit on their dragon hoard of wealth, while shafting those on the bottom line.

All, including billionaires, want to ensure the survival of their genes. Wealth is sexually attractive. At no point does more wealth stop being attractive. So everyone wants as much money as they can get. That doesn’t mean they’re necessarily prepared to do what’s required to get it (murder, exploitation, etc.) but they want the money.

And no difference between the homeless and billionaires. Yeah fucking right.

I didn’t say no difference, I said no difference in kind.

Nobody wants to be fucked over, obviously. But that is what is happening.

Indeed.

In every single case you can still be a traitor to something that groups you.

I disagree.

If you are not in the extremely wealthy class, then defending them is betraying what you are.

That’s ridiculous. If a person defends the extremely wealthy honestly then that isn’t betraying what they are, that is what they are.

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I’m tired of your ignorance, maybe try reading a book or using critical thinking. Otherwise you’ll just stay a sad, ignorant person sucking billionaire dick and getting nothing in return but bing fucked over.

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A class traitor is someone who acts counter to their class-interests. No allegiance required.

That’s ridiculous, nobody wants that.

Yet you defend a system which fucks you and the rest of the working class over.

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someone who acts counter to their class-interests

So not actually a traitor then, I see.

you defend

I’ve simply pointed out the reality of the situation, I haven’t stated any judgement about it.

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So not actually a traitor then, I see.

Linguistics prescriptivism is bullshit.

I’ve simply pointed out the reality of the siuation

(x) doubt.

Nice to see your bets so hedged. /s

But even if you were correct: Shouldn’t we as a society remove the system which enables people to monopolize power, if it’s “human nature” to exploit others?

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You’re just telling on yourself.

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