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Politics are people’s ethics and morality applied.

It is perfectly valid to judge people over them, and to shame people because of them. Just like you’d shame someone for littering.

Or even more aptly: just like you’d shame someone for using the N word. It is perfectly legal; it is NOT acceptable.

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The problem with a two party system is that it polarizes the grey areas where a lot of people don’t have friendship or family ending feelings. When people subscribe whole heartedly to party mindsets they gain friends in that group but wall themselves off from others.

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When people subscribe whole heartedly to party mindsets they gain friends in that group but wall themselves off from others.

This is when people make their political views part of their identity. If the party does something that you don’t agree with you are faced with two choices (sub-consciously); either you change your views to match the party, or you invalidate part of your identity. Depending on how big a part of your identity you have subsumed to the party; the harder it is to break that part of your identity.

It is always a worrying sign when someone says “I am a <insert political party here>”; rather than saying “I support <insert political party here>”. Support can easily be modified and revoked, your identity is not so easy to change.

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Solid.

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Sad to see that basic human rights are party mindsets still.

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Disingenuous. You want to talk human rights? How about Democratic support for Israel?

But I would only bring that into conversation when someone’s being disingenuous, because… Oh, yes. It’s disingenuous.

The worst part is, the Republican party is having a massive leadership crisis, and rather than dating things like “your leaders are fucking you over”, dems seem to think it’s a great idea to “shame” the Republicans - i.e., insult them for their identity - and alienaten them.

I am really starting to feel that Democrats don’t care how anyone votes, as long as they can get their moral superiority rocks off without having to actually dip their toes into nuanced (and actually moral) reasoning. Like, there’s so much fear, that you can’t help but create the situations you fear worst.

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That is true. But I think in today’s political climate, it is fair to conflate people’s political affiliation with the extremes of the party. Like “fiscally responsible republicans”, you can’t run away from the other bigoted policies of republicans. Same with democrats and things like immigration and supplying arms to Israel.

It’s a hard landscape to navigate, now probably more than ever.

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True, but that goes both ways, what with the casual support of genocide.

If anything, people should be looking at their parties, and either vacating or getting involved to make change, depending on how salvageable they think it is.

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That’s why Europe is better

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Europe has it’s own problems. Anti-muslim bigotry is rampant in many countries, as is anti-immigrant and refuge sentiment.

And England has made itself the home of transphobia thanks to a certain misogynistic, racist, and homophobic/transphobic children’s author who everyone there seems to take seriously.

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