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Kamala wants to change the rules of the one debate she said she’d do.

Kamala wants to change the rules to what Trump has demanded previously.

She even wants to have notes during the debate.

Trump would have the same option of notes, only he’s afraid that someone organised would more readily call out his bullshit.

They’re also the network that gave a candidate the questions ahead of time before. Donna Brazille admitted to it.

Source.

Just a few days ago, a reporter on ABC tried lying for Kamala to when he was interviewing Tom Cotton.

Again, source. Also there’s a difference between a reporter lying in an interview, perhaps to elicit a reaction from the interviewee, and a reporter lying on behalf of Kamala (which you’re implying), let alone at her request.

but I do think he should unless she agrees to do a debate on a Conservative network.

“Anything not on my side is biased” - you do not understand reality. Stop watching Fox News, that’s not a news channel, it’s fake entertainment, by their own admission under oath.

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Here’s you a couple of sources and you won’t convince me the reporter lied to “elicit a reaction” If that were the case, they wouldn’t only do it to a certain party. They’d do it to the other party as well. These MSM networks scream bias, especially when they’re giving one party the questions ahead of time for a debate. I understand reality just fine.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/26/us-news/trump-considers-dropping-out-of-abc-news-debate-over-biased-interview-with-sen-tom-cotton/

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/abc-s-ridiculous-and-biased-cotton-interview-that-got-trump-questioning-only-harris-debate/ar-AA1psdci

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Apologies for the delay in my reply here, I’ve only just got around to checking your links.

Both of these sources are primarily centred around Trump’s tweet, repeating and amplifying it as if what he says is true.

The first one has a video clip where the reporter clearly slipped up and didn’t have his facts straight. However, Cotton was also lying - he misrepresented Kamala’s position, as if to say she would take things away from people. The private health industry in the US is diabolical and needs sorting out, such that it isn’t tied to your employment. No one should be left in a situation where losing their job means they lose their healthcare. This is what Kamala was referring to by “abolish private health insurance on the job”. This would eliminate private health insurance as we know it, but it wouldn’t entirely eliminate private health insurance as you’d still be able to take out your own policy, separate from work. What she’s talking about is healthcare that’s free at the point of service, much like in Canada and the UK. Those systems aren’t free for everyone, but you don’t have the bullshit hoops with doctors being out of plan that insurance and the healthcare industry fleeces everyone with.

The first link also had a comment about veterans:

In the heated interview, Karl pressed Cotton on Trump’s recent remarks referring to the Medal of Freedom as “equivalent” to or “much better” than the Medal of Honor, which is the nation’s highest military award for bravery in combat.

“Jon, you’re totally taking that out of context. Donald Trump was great for our military. He is great for our veterans,” Cotton retorted.

This is completely false. Trump has not been good for the military, and he’s certainly not been good to veterans. He doesn’t even pretend to be good to veterans.

The second article, hosted on MSN but originally written by “Hindustan Times”, also goes into the healthcare thing, so I won’t repeat that part. However it does elaborate more on the "How do you know that is not her position now?” and accuses her of hiding her position. This is simply bullshit: when a person campaigns on something, that becomes their mandate. A politician can’t win an election and then use that as a mandate to do something else - which is exactly what the Republicans have done eg with repealing Roe vs Wade. There is no evidence that the Democrats are doing this, just a blind accusation from a party that already engages in this practice.

The reporter and Cotton then bickered about whether or not she had changed. Frankly, it’s all a very shit interview, and the reporter doesn’t come across as a very good journalist. However, to say that this proves the network is biased is a very weak argument. A reporter is supposed to be opposed to the person they’re interviewing, particularly with politicians, in order to challenge them. A good reporter would challenge guests regardless of which way the guest leans, in such a way that they ask difficult questions. It can easily seem that they’re biased if you only look at one interview, because they’re not on side with that guest, but you need to see interviews of both side to determine this. Without an interview of a Democrat where the reporter/network is clearly on side with them and does not ask difficult questions, this is nothing but an excuse for Trump to try and weasel out of a debate he agreed to but is now afraid of.

And if you look back to the interview with Harris in 2019, the reporter then did ask difficult questions when she talked about changing the healthcare industry.

You seem to be taking the words of Trump, a serial liar, as gospel. That is a mistake and not something that you can rationally justify.

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“This is completely false. Trump has not been good for the military, and he’s certainly not been good to veterans. He doesn’t even pretend to be good to veterans.”
Sorry but I disagree completely with that statement. The MSM spews a bunch of made up nonsense about Trump and the military but Trump secured three pay raises for our troops and their families including the largest pay raise in over a decade. He rebuilt the military after 8 years of neglect under the previous administration with over $2.2 trillion in defense spending, including $738 billion for 2020. He created the space force as well which was the first new branch of the United States Armed Forces since 1947. He vetoed the FY21 National Defense Authorization Act, which failed to protect our national security, disrespected the history of our veterans and military, and contradicted our efforts to put America first. He protected America’s defense-industrial base, directing the first whole-of-government assessment of our manufacturing and defense supply chains since the 1950s. He also helped our Veterans out by giving them the ability to go to whatever doctor they want to go to so they would no longer have to wait so long that some of them were dying to be seen at the VA. And I believe that he would have done much more for our military if he wasn’t being held down by all of phony Russia collusion nonsense.

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If that’s really what she was referring to, why does she never say that? The reporters are definitely biased btw. All you have to do is look at the interviews they do with Kamala or Biden (the very few of them they’ve done) and then listen to the interviews they do with Trump or just about any Republican really. It’s more than obvious. Yes, they’re supposed to challenge the person they are interviewing and every now and then they’ll ask Kamala a tough question, but then she’ll give a completely false answer and they just move on to the next one. You never see them do a follow up on it just like when she said that she made it clear in 2020 that she wouldn’t ban fracking. That’s false. She said the exact opposite. She mentioned at the time that Joe wouldn’t ban fracking, but said that she was for banning it. They never call her out on any of it. They also never sit there and fact check every sentence that comes out of the Dems mouth, but it’s just the opposite with Trump. If Trump claimed he retired from the military under a rank that he didn’t have, you’d never hear the end of it. Tampon Tim does it and they actively defend him. Also, more recently, the MSM goes on and on about Trump taking photos at Arlington National Cemetery in section 60, but Biden was the first to actually use photos he had taken in section 60 in a campaign ad. Does the MSM say anything about that? Not even a whisper/

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I don’t watch Fox News

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What conservative network are you referring to then?

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I’m not referring to one in particular. I’d settle for any of them, including any that aren’t on cable or sat. All the news networks broadcasts the debates anyway. If they want people to trust our election system, they need to have more than one debate on at least two different kinds of networks. Otherwise, people are going to believe it’s rigged or that someone’s probably got the questions ahead of time. It just makes it look worse when one candidate refuses to do it.

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