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but the electoral math didn’t seem to be on Sanders’s mind.”

No indeed, Sanders has the people’s rights in mind, first and foremost,

“electoral maths” is such a cynical view of the political fight… Dare I even say this is a loser mindset

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Slow down there. We all need to take a beat to find out the opinion of a Real American in Ohio or some other swing state.

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I would add that “electoral maths” is something some medias spend way too much time obsessing about. It goes “meta” on the voting intentions, ultimately encouraging tribalism by eclipsing the actual propositions. Furthermore it’s all based on polls which are increasingly unreliable since the end of the landline era.

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Really liked this articulation that someone shared with me recently:

here’s something you need to know about polls and the media: we pay for polls so we can can write stories about polls. We’re paying for a drumbeat to dance to. This isn’t to say polls are unscientific, or false, or misleading: they’re generally accurate, even if the content written around marginal noise tends to misrepresent them. It’s to remind you that when you’re reading about polls, you’re watching us hula hoop the ourobouros. Keep an eye out for poll guys boasting about their influence as much as their accuracy. That’s when you’ll know the rot has reached the root, not that there’s anything you can do about it.

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@theluddite@lemmy.ml @luciole@beehaw.org I swear one day I’m going to sit down and do the actual math to prove that voting systems are broken by having a majority of voters factor their perception of “electoral math” into their preferences even when their perceptions are accurate. Arrow’s impossibility theorem is already pretty discouraging without all this meta stuff.

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Wow. Literally describes Jean-Marc Léger. Went from polls guy to full on pundit exactly like this.

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you’re watching us hula hoop the ourobouros.

I am absolutely loving this bit. Very strong phrase, and as a bonus, excellent mental imagery!

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