Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; ‘The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,’ says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages’ location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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once you get that verification, your position will not change.

False.

You have only given yourself a 1% chance of changing your stance

No. I have given a very generous 1% chance of something said ONLY by an IDF spokesperson being the unvarnished truth. The concurrence of other sources would of course dramatically increase that chance, especially if any of them are themselves very reliable.

in my opinion, that the only refuge you are offering yourself is conspiracism if and when you are proven wrong.

That’s a very weird way to guess wrong.

I suspect the conspiracy will be “Israel killed the hostages themselves”

Wouldn’t be the first time or the last. That’s not a conspiracy theory at this point, though, just what’s most likely given the past behavior of all of the factions involved 🤷

I’m reserving final judgment until people of greater reliability than the likes of Donald Trump, Baghdad Bob, or Alex Jones chime in, though.

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You don’t see how automatically trusting the captors until proven otherwise is already evidence of how much you have embraced conspiricism?

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I’m not saying that I trust Hamas. For the record, I don’t.

I’m just saying that I don’t trust the IDF either, infamous as they are for being caught lying constantly.

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Right, but you know hamas believes jews should be wiped from this earth, and you know this current war began because of specific steps Hamas chose to take to attempt to make that goal a reality, you know the mistreatment they have displayed towards the hostages.

So for you to say that there is a 99% chance that Hamas is innocent of these killings, that’s a specific choice you are making for conspiricism.

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So you trust none of the firsthand sources, but somehow still think you’re enlightened to what’s going on?

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