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I suppose this doesn’t take into account more humane animal farming? Like not keeping a million chickens and three long barns? Or pigs with a livable space?

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The thing with pigs is: they eat a metric fuck-ton, so a lot of that land usage is to grow grain for feed.

That’s the vegans’ main point – we grow food to feed it to our food.

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pigs are mostly fed crop seconds or other waste product. it’s just not true that we are growing food exclusively for pigs.

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Yeah, that would make it even worse. I’m not sure by how much though, because like the other person said this is representative of cropland.

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They still haven’t figured out a way to humanely slaughter animals let alone keep them in fulfilling environments that would be impossible to tell from their wild counterparts.

We can’t afford to let animals live full lives. Pigs are butchered at 6 months but can live decades naturally.

We haven’t even begun to approach the conversation of maybe possibly being able to in the maybe distant future being able to consider a humane way to keep animals and then also harvest meat from them when they pass.

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