Curiously, the agrarians, ur-Americans of Southern Protestant extraction, were influenced by the leading figure of the French Counter-Enlightenment, the arch-reactionary ultramontane Catholic Joseph de Maistre. Even in the present day, a Southern apologist for slavery has written a screed for something called the Abbeville Foundation extolling Maistre’s hatred of republics. Evidently, despising the very governmental foundation of the United States has become fashionable for a certain type of reactionary conservative.

Émile Faguet, a French author and critic, called Maistre “a fierce absolutist, a furious theocrat, an intransigent legitimist, apostle of a monstrous trinity composed of pope, king and hangman, always and everywhere the champion of the hardest, narrowest and most inflexible dogmatism, a dark figure out of the Middle Ages, part learned doctor, part inquisitor, part executioner."

Maistre hits many of the key themes of American conservatism: religious dogmatism, belief over evidence, anti-scientism, the imperative of obedience to hierarchy and a habitual brooding over violence.

The author then continues on to wealth accumulation.

Wiki Link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_de_Maistre

You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments
18 points

They don’t hate America, they hate what it’s becoming. Which is to say, they want to go back to pre-civil rights, when you were effectively guaranteed success by being a straight, white, and male.

permalink
report
reply
12 points

they want to go back to pre-civil war

FTFY

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

I’ve seen some of them actually say they want to go back to the Middle Ages.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Well we’re gonna overshoot the warm period but I can offer the increase in pagan practices as part of the cultural zeitgeist

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

You might think that, but those paying for all their hulabaloo actually want a return to the 1880s. The golden Robber Barons days of absolute monopoly, where real men had the goddamn decency to make as much for their owners as they could, right before they died on the job.

Slavery is the goal. It’s always the goal. When you have enough money to buy anything, why make even more money? Power. They want slavery back, but not chattel slavery (as that fell out of style so long ago). Economic slavery, national neo-serfdom, is their self-congratulatory, evolved moral compromise, their gift to us unwashed masses. And they’re gonna beat it into us until we’re grateful, make no mistake. We are subhuman to them. It is as it’s always been.

They’re a cancer on the species and need to excised out of existence. The thing about worshippers, fellating everything heirarchy, is that at the center of that is FEAR.

Which leaves 2 options, remove the tumor, or eradicate enough of the cancerous cells that they’re too afraid to speak up, even in private amongst themselves. And even then, it’s the fear they’ll respect, not suffering opinion. Choosing another option is choosing to let benign become malignant. Everytime. Humanity is generally quite predictable, hence the “history repeats/rhymes” motifs.

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

And yet you’ve never really been effectively guaranteed success in America unless you were straight, white, male and already rich. And most of them aren’t rich.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points
*

Used to be only land-holding white males had a right to vote. Let’s go back to that and reverse all the woke.

/s I hate that I have to append this for people to understand sarcasm.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Hell, isn’t that what Elon is proposing? I think it was him saying it should just be tech bros running shit unless I’ve got the wrong idiot tech bro.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

When, of course, civil rights has little to nothing to do with it. The current issues with the country in terms of economy, such as rampant inflation, is the result of the very policies conservatives have been extolling for generations. To go back in the manner they want would mean to reduce and revert the impact conservative policies have harmfully built up over the generations.

permalink
report
parent
reply

politics

!politics@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That’s all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

Community stats

  • 15K

    Monthly active users

  • 16K

    Posts

  • 477K

    Comments