lemm.ee

-2 points

2 months ago

"I’ll gladly sacrifice functionality and my rights as a consumer for better UI integration " 🤢

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bamboo@lemm.ee

0 points

2 months ago

Out of curiosity, what functionality and what rights am I sacrificing?

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2 points

2 months ago

You can’t load software on your own device unless apple gives you permission even though you bought the device. I know how this goes every single time though. I can list features you don’t have or reasons why apple is trash and none of them will concern you at all. You will claim you don’t need other browsers but safari, you don’t need features android has had for years, you don’t need usb-c. Exactly the same conversation every time. When apple eventually gets any of these features, you will be ecstatic and love the company for them. It’s a cult.

And inb4 I am in the Google cult. Nope, fuck Google.

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bamboo@lemm.ee

1 point

2 months ago

Those are a lot of words you put in my mouth. In fact, I can and have sideloaded apps (the process is stupid and overcomplicated, but it does work, I am not in the EU), and my iPhone does in fact have USB C (was a dealbreaker, I used a Pixel until iPhones had USB C). I wish I could use other browsers on my phone besides Safari but it’s not a dealbreaker for me, I can and do run Firefox on my computer when I need a different browser for any reason, I hope this will change in the future.

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2 points

2 months ago

Apologies for my incorrect assumptions. I have had some very exhausting conversations with apple users. The EU had to force apple to use USBC (among other things no other company needs forcing to do) which is just insane. Honestly I’m a bit shocked that you came from Android phones and haven’t noticed the difference. There are many areas where you have little to no choice on iOS. How have you not noticed? If apple doesn’t want you to do it, you basically can’t.

If the browser thing was the only thing that would be a deal breaker for me for sure. You could install any browser you wanted on computers thirty years ago. How is it a thing that in 2024 a company is literally preventing you from installing a web browser on a phone that you bought?

There are many countless examples I’ve noticed over the years of things that cannot be done or are harder on iOS. On my android phone (and I wish there were options besides Android btw, because fuck Google) I can use SyncThing to keep my photos and other files backed up automatically without paying any cloud service. On iOS, last I checked you could even use a file manager, let alone anything remotely like SyncThing. They literally lock you out of doing anything that would cost them a penny. Such a shitty business model, removing any choice that doesn’t put money in their pockets.

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bamboo@lemm.ee

1 point

2 months ago

I’m very aware that there is less choice and have run into the various related issues. Ultimately it’s still been a positive experience, despite that.

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2 points

2 months ago

… Ok.

Out of curiosity, what functionality and what rights am I sacrificing?

So you knew all about this, you just wanted me to give specific examples so you can decide if you care about them?

To each their own but personally a company locking down the device I paid them for is a non starter. And consistently being years behind the competition when you’re a trillion dollar company is just… Sad.

Seriously imagine how much damage is done to the web as an evolving ecosystem by them disallowing all other browsers on hundreds of millions of devices. I know I personally have spent months of my life specifically supporting Safari in particular. Things that worked immediately on all other tested browsers took a lot of finagling to get working on iOS safari. I could’ve been spending that time developing new features (for all users, not just the wealthiest ones who bought iPhones) and fixing bugs.

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