Comment by EndlessApollo@lemmy.world on Florida is Patient Zero for American Fascism and the Libs Do Not Have an Answer to that Under the Constitution

Democrats don’t become perfect and nice and progressive just bc you ignore how they do nothing about fascism :3

and please explain to me how we get rid of fascism, i want to hear your tankie ass explain how fascism is “removed” from society.

Your assumption is that fascism is… inevitable? non-existent? not worth fighting? …good or useful, even?

Just trying to pin your motivation in calling someone a tankie just for pointing out passive enablement of fascism…

in some respects, fascism is inevitable as there is no solution to preventing fascism from becoming a thing other than hoping that nobody does a fascism.

In some respects, it’s not worth fighting for because fighting against it only justifies the deluded methods of the fascists at play.

It’s only good/useful in the perspective of the fascist.

Criticizing a non fascist for letting fascism exist is a rather weird response to take when fascism is the literal threat at hand here.

Your full-on defeatism when it comes to fascists but rabid and cynical opposition to simple expressions of anti-fascism is pretty telling in itself.

Yeah, I’m not engaging this any further. Ick.

These people love to find new creative ways to say “all we can do is let the fascists fascist, 🤷‍♂️” then turn around and call people accelerationists for mentioning they listened to a podcast about ww2 that called Hitler a bad guy.

not unlike how i’m being labelled a fascist sympathizer in this case either. Gotta love politics.

where’s my cynical opposition to anti-fascism? I’m politically opposed to the concept of parties fundamentally, antifa doesn’t really fit any of these categories, it’s just a sort of, nebulous concept. It’s interesting, i’m just not sure how much power it has politically. Other than being a thing for republicans to complain about constantly for no reason other than being bad faith.

It’s defeatist in nature, but how are you supposed to deal with fascism? There is no good way to deal with fascism other than using brute force and military. Which literally only bolsters their political agenda. The other option is to stop it before it’s born, but good luck with that one lol.

There are also a lot of problems with shutting down certain speech as well, especially in a place like america where free speech is a thing that we have. It may be ruled constitutional to be fascist. Likewise, voting for fascism may be constitutional as well, so it may be completely legal for fascism to be in power in the US. The only opposition here is literally the public, and we all know how well that goes with fascism historically.

You still haven’t answered my question.

where’s my cynical opposition to anti-fascism

i want to hear your tankie ass explain how fascism is “removed” from society.

antifa

Hm, funny, I don’t seem to remember mentioning antifa…

There is no good way to deal with fascism other than using brute force and military.

Fascism doesn’t become an unstoppable force overnight without first having been enabled and appeased in at least the decades leading up. I’m sorry that you don’t have the understanding, motivation, or imagination to ask for any intervention before this point, from people who have real power to intervene.

You still haven’t answered my question.

I’m not the person you asked, nor do I have the answers to the universe, and I suspect that they do not either. Sure would be nice if our elected officials would do literally anything in the face of clear power grabs, though, and stand up for what their voters actually want instead of counting on the other team being worse. If I’m a tankie just for asking that of our representatives, then so be it.

Strike 1: Run them out on rails

Strike 2: Tar and feather

Strike 3: French onions

this is a pretty effective solution, if you don’t care about free speech absolutism.

It’s been done historically in the US, though for other reasons. Salem witch trials and what not.

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