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Think of a van as an enormous truck storage bin.

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But it’s got a roof which makes placing 20 foot ladders or a ton of gravel in it very awkward. The fixed volume natural of it isn’t compatible with the kind of work I do. But maybe you, a person that doesn’t do my job, knows more about my situation than I do.

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I did always wonder about the ladder thing. I see ladders on vans all the time, but it also seems inconvenient. Even as a taller guy, it looks like a reach. How do y’all do it, especially if you are on site alone? Are there racks with some sort of lifting mechanism?

Edit: nvm, someone already posted a picture of such a rack

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But maybe you, a person that doesn’t do my job, knows more about my situation than I do.

The original point above was that vans are better than trucks if you frequently get rained upon. Maybe it’s you who is lacking empathy.

Oh, and this.

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But what would I care if gravel gets wet?

I know you tried with the whole empathy thing but since the subject here is my needs for a truck saying I lack empathy for myself kinda falls flat.

Really, you are coming off as a sociopath that thinks they know better than everyone what is good for them. I know my needs better than you. For some trades a van is perfect. But for my jack of all trades a truck is a better choice. A small truck. Literally the kind of small truck that doesn’t get made in America anymore. Modern trucks are too big to actually be useful.

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Get a fucking dump truck or something to deliver gravel, putting gravel in the bed of a pickup is probably the stupidest excuse to own one I have ever heard. Loading it would be a batch unloading it would be even worse, and you typically need a fuck lot more gravel than what a pickup can carry.

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As a jack of all trades, I can’t afford a dedicated piece of machinery like that. 60,000 on the low end for a dump truck plus the insurance and a place to park it. That’s not a reasonable expense. I need general purpose, vehicles and tools.

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