Can we discuss how it’s possible that the paid model (gpt4) got worse and the free one (gpt3.5) got better? Is it because the free one is being trained on a larger pool of users or what?

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My guess is that all those artificial restrictions plus regurgitation of generated content take their toll.

There are so many manually introduced filters to stop the bot from replying “bad things” and so much of the current internet content is already AI generated, that it’s not unlikely that the whole thing collapses in on itself.

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Oh, right, that’s another factor: connecting gpt4 to the real-time internet creates those training loops, yes. The pre-prompt guardrail prompts are fixable and even possible to overcome, but training on synthetic data is the key here, because it’s impossible to identify what is artificial, so on the collapse loop goes.

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connecting gpt4 to the real-time internet creates those training loops, yes… it’s impossible to identify what is artificial, so on the collapse loop goes.

ouroboros of garbage

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