cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/22423685

EDIT: For those who are too lazy to click the link, this is what it says

Hello,

Sad news for everyone. YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won’t work anymore.

If you are interested to install Invidious at home, we remind you that we have a guide for that here: https://docs.invidious.io/installation/..

This is not the death of this project. We will still try to find new solutions, but this might take time, months probably.

I have updated the public instance list in order to reflect on the working public instances: https://instances.invidious.io. Please don’t abuse them since the number is really low.

Feel free to discuss this politely on Matrix or IRC.

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149 points

We need a competitor badly.

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63 points

Peertube/Odysee exist, even if they are relatively niche.

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50 points

Competitor with no content, users is not a competitor. Youtube should be forced to share content they do not own. Just for the sake of competition.

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61 points

The content isn’t the problem. It’s the delivery system. No one else has the storage and network capacity that Youtube has. And as a result of that, no one else has the built-in audience Youtube has. Putting your videos on YT is simply the best way to get views.

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10 points

I use odysee, and so far it’s been nice.

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I’d like to move to PeerTube, but I mostly just post stupid memes, and game clips on my YouTube. And as generic as that is I don’t really know what instance to go with. Most instances seem to either focus on tech, or education. And that’s good to have but I want a more general instance from a uploader pov.

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-23 points

rumble is pretty good

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31 points

fuck off out of here with your nazi platforms

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18 points

Whatever happened to dailymotion?

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11 points

Does anyone really post anything to Dailymotion besides blatantly unauthorized TV stuff? I can’t imagine it’d be very good vibes for anyone trying to make an honest living with original content over there.

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6 points

Dailymotion does not allow for commenting anymore. That’s why I stopped using it.

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3 points

iirc they tried to become a tiktok clone, no idea how it went but considering i never see anyone talk about it i doubt it went very well

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1 point

I used it a bit because its also on Grayjay but its pretty terrible and focuses a lot on big media than individual people

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Paying Nebula subscriber here 🙋‍♂️

Pony up or your call for a competitor doesn’t mean anything. People don’t want ads? Fine. There has to be another revenue stream. Server capacity costs money, making a website and app cost money, and video creators need to eat.

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8 points

Then isn’t the obvious move to just pay for youtube?

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3 points

I also do that. But Nebula is more thoroughly creator friendly. 50% of net profits go to creators and are divided by their share of watch time. That is a far more creator friendly policy than YT having a closed ad algorithm and you just get what you get. The YT display algorithm is also famously opaque and has some bullshit nanny filters on it such that you can’t actually make a faithful video about something like a historical massacre without being demonetized and hurting your channel in the algo.

There’s a lot I like about YT and being a premium subscriber does benefit creators there but I think Nebula is a next step in that evolution and it’s off to a decent start.

I pay for both.

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Absolutely this. I pay for both my Proton and Notesnook accounts. No ads, no trafficing my data, and services I like and believe in.

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I do pony up for other services (not YT Premium because I won’t give Google any money) and support a significant number of creators via Patreon, giving them more money by far than they’d ever see from me from ads. And I’ve spent thousands of hours on my own dime making written content and giving it away for nothing with no ads or tracking. So yes, I agree.

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Can you say more about the written content part? I’m not sure I understood. Are you giving YT creators scripts for videos?

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