For hours today, yesterday, and intermittently since I’ve been on here (a month or so) lemmy stops loading using jerboa, liftoff, and a web browser.

The site isn’t listed on any down detector I know of, and each app gives different errors but ultimately just won’t load.

It’s often enough that recently when I consider jumping on here I just don’t because there will probably be an issue. Ranging from not loading, JSON errors, or just blank screens and my comments not working…

What’s going on? Is there a status page for these places?

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-41 points

Sorry for being a bit harsh, but I have little sympathy for the admins of lemmy.world. Instead of looking for ways to disperse the people around other instances, it seems that the people behind .world are rushing to grab mindshare and concentrate as many people as they can in their own servers.

The threadiverse is not healthy when almost 50% of the active user base is in the same instance. The lemmy.ml admins basically shut down their instance for registration and said “please look elsewhere”. Why can’t you do the same?

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They’re not advertising or telling people to come to lemmy.world… people are coming here and they’re just accommodating them instead of blowing them off

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To be honest, what upsets me is the amount of communities that already existed elsewhere but they decided to recreate under their own service. Why does everything need to be under their umbrella? Why not point the users to the already existing communities? It would even help avoid the issues they are having now.

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Who are you thinking created those communities?

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It’s not that we can not handle the load caused by users or by the amount of communities. It’s because of DDOS attacks and even with cloudflare some of these attacks are challenging due to the way lemmy works. No instance is safe from these attacks but the bigger instances get targeted. We weren’t the only instance that went down today.

I don’t think we do anything wrong here? None of us are being paid, we all put in a lot of time and effort to keep things running. You don’t know how many passionate people are involved “behind the scenes” seeing you call out the admins of lemmy.world.
You can’t please everyone, and some people will always find a stick. But I still think a lot of people believe in our team, our policies and what we are trying to do here. If that’s not your thing, fine, you can look elsewhere.

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Thanks for doing what you do!

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I, for one, am glad to be on a server that isn’t run by tankies, nazis or some other crazy fuckos.

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No instance is safe from these attacks but the bigger instances get targeted.

Then don’t work to become a big instance.

None of us are being paid,

If not you, someone is profiting from this

you can look elsewhere.

I’d love to, except lemmy.world went on to a huge land grab, cloned every possible popular community on reddit and is not giving any signs that will stop. Almost 50% of the user base is unreasonable and it goes against the ethos of federation and decentralization. An instance going down should not be newsworthy, but because it’s so big (relative to the others) it introduces systemic risk and approaches “too big to fail” status.

I shouldn’t be the one telling you.

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The instance itself did not do a “big land grab,” users on the instances made the communities. And, as you should know, the fact that there’s a community on one instance doesn’t mean that the same topic can’t be on another, there are several of those kinds of duplicates.

I signed up for .world because I liked the policies, it didn’t seem to be heavily communist or hosted in an authoritarian country, and it seemed to be robust. Nobody told me I should make my account there; I saw zero advertising. I’m not sure what you think the admins did to make other people settle there.

And the fact that some people are donating to it in no way means they’re making anything like profit. The admins didn’t make a plea for me to donate anywhere that I saw, other than having the link in the sidebar, like many/most instances.

You seem to be taking frustrations out on people who don’t deserve it. If the stability problems become an issue, people will just make accounts elsewhere.

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I am sure that it has nothing to do with you having any financial gains hosting instances. And that you do it all for the good of federation: https://lemmy.world/comment/1510374

Yes you would do things differently if you were in our position.

@ruud@lemmy.world is very open about what comes in from donations in his monthly blog posts. He even links those in !lemmyworld@lemmy.world. Have a look: https://blog.mastodon.world/june-2023

He has the trust of every one involved. We are very thankful for the community supporting us as they do and it’s not because income is more than expenses now that it will stay like that. We expect donations to drop off at one point. But whatever happens we will always be open about this. Even you linked to information that is freely available.

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Is there a post or blog somewhere that goes into detail about why DDOS is such an issue with lemmy or activitypub? Or are you saying that about DDOS in general?

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The threadiverse is not healthy when almost 50% of the active user base is in the same instance.

Eh, it’s only a tiny fraction of what the userbase will be eventually, so unless other instances fail to step up the “problem” will solve itself.

It’s not lemmy.world’s fault that people like it.

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