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38 points

Dude, 100Mbps isn’t good enough anymore either

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Meh, it’s good enough to be usable. I have 50/10 Mbps down/up and I can watch 1440p videos just fine. What do y’all use your internet for? Do you have like 5 family members watching stuff at the same time?

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One major AAA game update will likely break your connection for hours for all intents and purposes.

Bitrate of a 1440p youtube video is going to be around 20mpbs (±4). Your 50 down connection couldn’t handle more than 2 streams. The lowest reported bitrate is 16mbps on their support page (https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?hl=en#zippy=%2Cbitrate). 50/16 = 3.125, with network overhead you’d be VERY lucky to get 3 streams going without stuttering.

It’s entirely possible that a family of 5 would run into issues if they’re all home and some want to watch videos.

My family of 4 have been Plex trained… So I mitigate a lot of these problems personally.

But it’s more likely that the 10 up breaks things even more. One person in the house uploading anything (or participating in zoom/teams/etc calls) will cripple your ability to make ANY request to the internet.

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One major AAA game update will likely break your connection
One person in the house uploading anything will cripple your ability to make ANY request

You are describing symptoms of bufferbloat, not capacity problems.

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50/10

good enough to be usable

On a post about how ISPs are literally fucking us all over, overcharging for the most basic connections that are far behind other countries and all you have to say is iT’s UsAbLe lmao

Youre advocating for the SLOWEST avg speed in the nation

Americans are getting nearly 200 Mbps in download speed, but are you?

https://www.allconnect.com/blog/us-internet-speeds-globally

As of May 2023, Ookla’s Speedtest.net shows Americans are getting over 200 Mbps of download speed and about 23 Mbps of upload speed through their fixed broadband connections — good for 6th in the world for median fixed broadband speeds. Considering “fast internet speeds” are generally defined as any download speed above 100 Mbps, Americans are doing quite well by this measure.

In fact, according to a recent Allconnect data report, 9 in 10 households can access at least 100 Mbps speeds.

That’s an incredible improvement from just under a decade ago when the U.S. had an average download speed of just 31 Mbps. In 2013, America ranked 25th among 39 nations for broadband speed.

Sub-100 is not good enough by most standards these days around the world. 50 is not even double the fastest speeds from TEN years ago

We as consumers and citizens deserve better, especially as working from home continues to be a popular and realistic option and our global culture continues to be directly tied to internet culture/media/content.

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Honestly, I would rather have universal health care than faster download speeds any day.

I’m currently shelling out about $18,000 a year to have a $2,500 deductible.

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The average US household has something like 2.5 people in it. It’s safe to assume (statistically) that at least two of those people are old enough to consume web content unsupervised.

Then there are edge cases that aren’t quite so crazy, like 5 person households where everyone is over the age 14.

So yeah, for one person 50/10 is likely just fine. But for the average household 100/15 is likely closer to baseline.

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With the increase in WFH and distance learning, I think up/down parity should be a priority as well. Not everything is just about your ability to consume mass-marketed entertainment.

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29 points

What? That’s plenty for the average person.

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3 points

I would like to disagree, since every “news” site started adding auto playing videos and ads on each and every page. what should be a 2kB text now comes with a 50MB video Download…

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  1. get yourself a good adblocker (ublock origin)
  2. Block autoplay by default (firefox has had this for years, chromium just added it)
  3. start deliberately avoiding such sites when you can
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That’s like two people streaming high def TV at the same time.

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No way, that would be 6.25 MB/s for tv. For a two hour movie that would be 50GB. Is a 4k movie really 50GB?

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I think person* is the keyword here. Many families have several people concurrently watching streaming video, listening to music, and playing games that are required to have an internet connection. 100Mbps is not enough.

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And most families probably have cheap wifi routers with poor snr as their main bottleneck.

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11 points

Streaming music is a very negligible impact. We’ve had streaming music for 2 decades.

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7 points

Right, but this is about setting a minimum standard for it to be classified as broadband. For an average individual 100Mbps is high speed internet.

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