Sicily - which has already been brought to its knees by a prolonged heatwave - is battling wildfires that are threatening towns and cities across the island.

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The fruits of capitalism.

We won’t stop either, the greed disease is like a drug. The few who have wealth and demand more without end, and the many who prefer to tell themselves it’ll be them one day with hard work so why destroy their future lavish lifestyle by breaking the wheel? Addicted to the gluttonous life, or addicted to the gluttonous delusion.

And the world burned…

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Fun fact: socialists consume coal and oil too

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That doesn’t really apply when the topic is “capitalists uniquely cause(d) climate change,” which is hilariously and obviously false because socialists also have a need for shelter and food.

That meme would work if I were saying something like “socialists also buy iphones lol” but my point is very clearly broader than that

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For warmth and necessary industry and energy, not for crap the capitalists propagandize we need or need to be jealous of. You need a home and commons(transportation of some kind for people and utilities) and food, you dont need beanie babies, pop figues, and for everyone to have their own polluting car instead of having societal investment in quality public transit almost eveyone uses. Socialists also don’t encourage replacing everything every 6 months and making things to break/planned obsolescence to encourage needless consumption literally for the sake of consumption.

The capitalist lifestyle is unsustainable because it relies on infinite growth on a finite world we are burning to sustain.

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Lol it’s adorable that you think people liking having shit is due to capitalism.

I’m very curious to hear what you think capitalism means.

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I don’t think the heatwave had much to do with capitalism

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Lol

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Can someone explain why capitalism is the cause of these fires instead of just down voting the shit out of us for asking a question?

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https://pitjournal.unc.edu/2022/12/24/how-capitalism-is-a-driving-force-of-climate-change/#:~:text=Most climate scientists have come,from a global capitalist drive.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/world/heat-wave-climate-change-us-china-europe-intl/index.html

Capitalism demands and requires constant growth/metastasis instead of equilibrum. Consume, consume, consume, leads to unnecessary industry to make unnecessary things to increase profits for private individuals who never stop demanding more year over year. They use their propaganda machines, all major media which they own, to impress on everyone that not consuming needlessly makes you a loser and a bad person who is missing out and uncool, to further drive consumption for profit. Which has led us inexorably here.

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You’re getting downvoted because it’s hard to believe there are any folk out there who are arguing in good faith that climate change is not at least partially (if not majorly) impacted by man-made causes. Capitalism being a driving factor would go hand in hand with climate change due to its proponents of “fuck you I got mine” and get rich at any cost. Capitalism is not for the people, it is for the capitalist, and the capitalists have shown that they are willing to burn the world down for short term gains. See the picture above.

If you can tell me you believe that fossil-fuel executives, having looked at this picture, think “oh man we really should’ve been listening to scientists for the past half century”, then I can show you a liar.

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Because these fires are the result of climate change.

Climate change itself is driven by human emissions, which the VAST majority of are driven by the pursuit of profit by corporations, which is entirely a capitalist concept. Corporations could invest money into eliminating emissions, but that would reduce profit, so corporations don’t do it unless they can leverage it as a selling point to increase revenue.

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Because these fires are the result of climate change.

Climate change itself is driven by human emissions, which the VAST majority of are driven by the pursuit of profit by corporations, which is entirely a capitalist concept. Corporations could invest money into eliminating emissions, but that would reduce profit, so corporations don’t do it unless they can leverage it as a selling point to increase revenue.

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Because these fires are the result of climate change.

Climate change itself is driven by human emissions, which the VAST majority of are driven by the pursuit of profit by corporations, which is entirely a capitalist concept. Corporations could invest money into eliminating emissions, but that would reduce profit, so corporations don’t do it unless they can leverage it as a selling point to increase revenue.

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The goal of pure capitalism is to extract as much wealth for yourself and shareholders as you possibly can, as fast as you possibly can. The consequences of that are to be the most successful, you’re pushed into making selfish decisions, ones that benefit you to the detriment of others. What we have in the world now is that taken to the extreme. Oil companies don’t give a fuck if global warming is killing the planet, they’re making money now. Industrial farms don’t care if the rain forests die, they need that land to sell crops. Fishing operations don’t care if entire species are going extinct, they need to catch more to make more. Companies don’t worry about long term problems because they don’t show up on a quarterly balance sheet, and they need to show growth for their investors or they’ll go under.

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Because these fires are the result of climate change.

Climate change itself is driven by human emissions, which the VAST majority of are driven by the pursuit of profit by corporations, which is entirely a capitalist concept. Corporations could invest money into eliminating emissions, but that would reduce profit, so corporations don’t do it unless they can leverage it as a selling point to increase revenue.

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the industrial revolution was driven by capitalism

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