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19 points

Honestly, I’ve only ever had problems with Wayland so far. So many times when I look up the issue tracker for a software I’m having issues with, the solution is always “switch to a DE that uses Xorg.”

I get that it’s not a mature software yet, but neither should people be pushing to use it until it is.

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That’s called a paradox, it’ll never be mature software if people don’t move to it so edge cases can be found and fixed.

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Unfortunately there’s no possible way to get screensavers working under wayland, which is what’s holding me back (also screensharing over Discord, but that’s not wayland’s fault)

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https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop

^ fixes discord with an even better client, or you can use the many versions of discord that use the native system electron, which will all fix screensharing too.

https://sr.ht/~mstoeckl/wscreensaver/

^ screensavers

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Not here. This is not linux desktop share where every actor is an independent agent and all options are viable. Xorg is developed by the same people doing Wayland, and they decided Xorg is dead and will only receive security updates. I agree that Wayland compatibility is still not fully mature. But unfortunately for all those devs the upgrade window is moving fast and eventually their software will be left behind unless they change to Wayland. At this point Xorg is not even the default anymore.

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I fully expect people to keep using a broken Xorg, not move into wayland, and not fork and keep it updated.

But the devs are free to do whatever they want. No opinions there. I wouldn’t want to maintain Xorg either.

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“Here, switch to this software! Except it doesn’t support half of the features of the old one and it never will. Why? Uhhhh idk security or something. What was that? Will we add a way to securely allow these things? Lol no”

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What features are you talking about?

People say this all the time but can never give any actual examples.

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Screensavers! I know they’re technically pointless in the modern era but dammit they make me happy

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Global keyboard shortcuts, copy-paste, window position save/restore, screen recording, probably a few others I’m forgetting. I know some compositors implement these, but they aren’t part of the Wayland standard so it’s a bit hit-or-miss afaik.

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11 points

Aside from sway, I’m trying to think of a DE that doesn’t support Xorg.

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7 points

Hyprland? Also cosmic technically

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Hyprland is not a DE

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