Comment by bouh@lemmy.world on Cards Against Humanity continue to bring good into the world

Isn’t that like buying votes?

Well, they are specifically doing a call to action to vote, part of their “offer” is that you make a plan to vote. But they aren’t saying you have to vote for a specific party.

Merely paying you to vote at all is illegal. But they’re not doing that - they’re paying you to make a plan to vote, to post a tweet and to make a public apology. Nothing says you have to go through with the plan to vote, merely that you make one - and that distinction is the legal line they are walking.

Absolutely, no argument there!

They are specifically paying for a plan to vote.

But they aren’t requiring people to follow through on the plan.

Well, they are specifically doing a call to action to vote, part of their “offer” is that you make a plan to vote. But they aren’t saying you have to vote for a specific party.

“America’s bluest non voters” and “tweet Donald trump is…”. Looks like they are only paying if you agree with their politics. That is buying votes. Offering it to all non voters is one thing but the other requirements make it shady. Just as bad as Elon Musk “sign a petition”. neither should be permitted.

They know

Everyone is posting about getting paid for their apology. I did my part by getting a pack, and I want to post, too. What should I post?

You should post:

How is this not illegal??? Cards Against Humanity is PAYING people who didn’t vote in 2020 to apologize, make a voting plan, and post #DonaldTrumpIsAHumanToilet—up to $100 for blue-leaning people in swing states. I helped by getting a 2024 Election Pack: www.Apologize.lol

That’s the point. Draw attention to the illegal shit Musk is doing so that maybe the one remaining judge in the US who wants to uphold the Constitution might do something about it.

That is buying votes.

No, it’s not. Specifically because they aren’t actually requiring you to vote - they are paying you to make a public apology, post a tweet, and come up with a plan to vote but not based on whether or not you actually go through with that plan or vote at all. That distinction is the specific legal line they are walking.

blue also means sad…LOOPHOLE! (You know…the whole point…)

You’ve got a point, if Elon did this for the right people would be screaming corruption, paying people only if they agree to vote the way you want them to is shady as fuck regardless of which side is doing it

I’m probably just joining you in getting dogpiled here but oh well

I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not, because Elon actually is doing that.

In both these cases, the payment technically isn’t directly for voting for a specific candidate. The payment is for an unrelated action that only someone voting for your candidate would agree with. Either way, still smells bad.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/10/07/elon-musks-pac-is-paying-47-for-each-solicited-petition-signature-from-a-swing-state-voter-heres-why-its-controversial/

The payment is for an unrelated action that only someone voting for your candidate would agree with.

Supporting free speech and gun rights (literally all the petition says) is something only a Trump voter would agree with?

You think Musk supports free speech in any way, form or shape?

I’m not being sarcastic, and I don’t follow American politics that closely so I didn’t know about this. I also don’t see why people think the right response to that is to just do the same thing though

Because being this blunt about it will likely get it made illegal.

They’re doing it specifically to point out how bullshit it is. Read the FAQ: https://apologize.lol

But… he is doing it?

I’m not following, I don’t live in the US. If he’s doing it too that also sucks but I don’t think stooping to that level is the way to solve that problem

It’s been pointed out that he is in fact doing it, several times actually. I’m actually pretty sure this is directly a result of the Muskrat doing it.

Then read through the website linked and understand what is going on here if you’re not following.

He posted it on X under his account…it might as well said “maga only”.

I can’t actually find the tweet you’re talking about but I’m assuming he’s deleted it or something

From what people are saying it sounds like he was just paying non voters to vote at all, not restricting it to only people who shared his political beliefs

I’d applaud it if that was what CAH were doing but they’re specifically whitelisting people they agree with to be able to get the money, IE paying people to agree with them

They are paying “people that didn’t vote in 2020”. It is ultimately a foil of Musks rightwing, but not reaaalllyy wiiink. Just theirs it more aimed towards blue voters, but only because the right struggles to insult their godking…but ultimately it is just words and not telling them to VOTE BLUE. Just like Musk is trying to get his predominantly red crowed to register and get paid, but not TELLING them to vote red

It is completely asinine and a symptom of our trash system.

No more so that Elon

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