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He stepped down because he saw that America took his gaffes at the debate more seriously than he thought they should, not because he feels he’s not up to the job. Honestly, our way of selecting Presidents sucks. An objective look at this admin versus the last admin would make that decision easy – Biden has set himself up for success by hiring competent underlings rather than yes-men, and he managed to reverse killer inflation and handle a global pandemic, while fighting against one tyrant. He’s not perfect. Nobody is. He is open to criticism over his handling of Palestine and Israel and we sure can criticise his unwillingness to hold Netanyahu as accountable as he wants to handle Putin. But the other guy set up Biden for the last 4 years of bullshit with his utter mismanagement of the country, and plans on making things ten times worse. Biden looked at the polling, at the bullshit settling down on his administration and on him personally, and said he’d step back so Harris could run.

As for why Harris got the nod? There was less than a month until the General Election, virtually all of the Primaries had already been had, and despite all the bullshit being peddled about him, he won the Primary. Harris was on his ticket. They wanted to transition easily into the General without a bajillion crazy little questions about the Biden/Harris campaign, its warchest, and avoid a bloodbath between various Democratic Party factions all screaming for their guy/gal just in time for Trump to trounce the weakened candidate in the general, they leveraged the same process that would have happened had that nutbar that shot at Trump taken a shot at Biden and didn’t miss – the VP becomes POTUS. And this allows Harris to not have to jump through hoops for ballot access nor start from scratch with campaign finances, which unfortunately are STILL important for getting into the White House.

Sadly, the bullshit shifted to Harris and we’re back where we were before. Does the hard-left WANT Trump in office, because it sure fucking looks like they do.

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Maybe he also realized he was too close to it. All his speeches were in contrast to the other party’s candidate, and I still support that he’s much fitter to lead than the other party’s candidate. But if you step back from just the one on one contest, it’s a completely different story ……

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Got proof of this? I mean, only once in my lifetime has a third party cracked 10% of the vote share. Easily 90% of the votes given have gone to a guy or gal with an -R or -D after their name for President.

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I didn’t say anything about third party, but you’re right that maybe my attempt at not degenerating into political name calling made it unclear.

To be more blunt:

  • Biden is clearly more fit to be president than Trump and likely will be until the day he dies, and several weeks later
  • for myself, I focused on this. In the competition between the two, Biden is clearly the better choice and the most fit to be president.
  • Historically, sitting presidents have had a strong advantage in an election. Biden is not only a sitting president but has been elected over Trump

This makes Biden a clear choice …. But all the noise about his age did make me sit back and reconsider whether that was true in general or in the context of this competition. If there was not so much on the line and not so much recent toxic history, I would agree that I prefer someone else, someone younger and more energetic. I thought Biden was perfect in the centrist position attempt to bring this country back together, and he did as much as anyone could.

But Harris came out swinging, showing energy, youth, life, and even strayed toward progressive (I don’t know if that’s still true). If I can step back from the competition between two old men, take a larger picture, ignore all the toxic blather, I can see that she is indeed a candidate I would prefer.

The guy’s not dumb, maybe he sees it too. It must have been the toughest part of his term, always battling for reality over toxic stunts, blatant lies so it’s all too easy staying in the trenches, focusing on slugging it out, when he’s the only sane person in the room. Maybe Biden stepped back and said, yeah, I’m tired of this and there actually are other choices.

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Biden is the Incumbent, and we took a huge risk, that may well not pay off, swapping him out in mid-race.

Harris is the Vice President. She is the logical successor, by way of our own constitution, to take over if Biden is incapacitated.

Democrats have a long history of tearing each other down when they don’t get what they want. Hard-Leftists screamed bloody murder for getting Biden removed. He thought he was up for it (and still does, he did an interview on that recently!), but bowed to increasing calls when it became clear he didn’t have the backing of the Dems after the debate performance.

Do you blame the hard left when you shit your pants?

What the fuck is wrong with you. Regardless, I’m reporting this violation of Rule 3. @jordanlund@lemmy.world , is this acceptable to you?

Ironic right after the whole discussion from Tee9000 about hatred. Goes to show that that hatred isn’t exclusive to Team Pepe.

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Nope, or to the other mod who removed it.

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Ironic right after the whole discussion from Tee9000 about hatred. Goes to show that that hatred isn’t exclusive to Team Pepe.

One comment about how you’re throwing blame about without introspecting and you pitch a fit about civility. Sorry I didn’t tone police myself to your satisfaction.

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No, the hard left doesn’t want Trump. Drag is hard left and wants Kamala in office. lemmy.ml users aren’t hard left, they’re leninists, which is moderate left. About the same amount of left as social democrats.

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Calling Leninism “moderate left” is like calling Project 2025 “moderate right”.

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Drag apologises. Drag will follow your advice and call Leninism far right.

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Leninists are not hard left wing. And fascist / project 2025 are not hard right wing. The thing to understand with authoritarians. Is that they are only hard authoritarian. Nothing more nothing less. Anything outside of that can be changed at a snap of the fingers.

Need proof? Look at any government based around the concepts of marxist Leninism. Brutally socially oppressive. Creating heavily stratified classes and an inescapable Nation. Things pretty much counter to every actual left-wing ideology. Or look at any Western capitalist nation. Every single one currently fending off populist fascists. Who want to oppress minority groups and use the government to rigidly stratify Society under the boot of an inescapable nation. Pretty much counter to all the talk of Liberty and freedom of right wing ideologies . All because their actual hard right liberal governments refuse to compromise and Budge left in any fashion to address the needs of the people.

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Relative to what, Maoists? Ultraleftists? Leftcoms?

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Anarchists.

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