Don’t try to be Kennedy.
There’s prey animals, like deer. Those are hunted for subsistence, to eat and use.
Predators do not taste good, they taste bad in fact. They are not hunted for subsistence to feed your family, they’re hunted for sport. They are killed for fun, so assholes can stuff them and mount their heads on walls.
So yeah, there’s a difference. Either you yourself, like to hunt predators for sport, or you have no experience with, or knowledge of, hunting at all. Either way, your take is awful.
So your argument is that it’s wasteful? And that food is a better justification for the waste than making a trophy?
You can make trophies out of things that aren’t bears and you can eat things that aren’t deer, so I’m not sure how they are much different unless your argument is that eating specifically deer is important somehow and making trophies out of bears is not.
People who hunt prey for trophies, and waste the meat, are also pieces of shit. It’s called wanton waste, and it’s illegal.
But no one hunts predators for their meat. They hunt them for sport. They hunt them because they get a joy from killing them, and for no other reason. I’m not sure what you’re not getting about this. They only keep the meat, because again, it’s wanton waste and it’s illegal.
Bear meat is disgusting. Predators do not taste good. They’re killed so weak men can feel strong. They hunt predators because they enjoy killing for the sake of killing, and for trophies. That’s it.
This is the third time I rearticulated the same point, which everyone else here seems to get.
Now that I’ve done that for you, can you please let me know which one of these you are:
A. Someone who hunts predators.
B. Someone who has no experience with, or knowledge of, hunting.
I love bear meat, and cougar. I don’t know where you got this idea that predators don’t taste good.
Everything you say is based on convention and nature and opinion. You never addressed what I said and in your own words “rearticulated” (more like regurgitated) the same points that you have yet to give merit to.
I’m glad you love animals and I’m curious if you’re approaching this from a post-speciesist perspective? (e.g. perhaps you’re vegan for ethical and/or other reasons)
(not arguing anything btw just curious)
I know the term speciesism but am not read up enough about it to say whether I would fit that perspective. Personally I don’t believe a human and a bear and a deer are equal, or even two humans are equal, just equal in certain ways that matter when discussing things like the right to their life.
And taking a life can be justified. But I personally would not take a life for food as there are other things to eat. Even if OP believes that neither deer nor bears have the right to life though, I’m curious what line of reasoning would bring someone to think the act of taking one’s life is monstrous and taking another’s noble. Surely to believe such a thing there must at least be some kind of great cost attributed to at the very least killing that bear, and I am curious why that cost would not be also an attribute of killing the deer or be neutralized by the boon of deer meat vs a trophy or the satisfaction of hunting (which the OP claims to be the only reasons someone would hunt a predator, but I can come up with more).
The morality of the situation is certainly an emotional subject for me. But in conversations like these I’m mostly approaching it out of curiosity as I acknowledge that most people find these things normal and am more interested about why they find these things normal or what justifications they come up with on the spot. I believe most people don’t really know why they find these things normal, I’m not sure I really knew why I found them normal before I was myself questioned.
Bro.
Bears have been hunted since before human history. Specifically for their meat and fur. They’re delicious. And warm and fuzzy.
that is a different discussion than “Predators aren’t hunted for food.” And a point I would generally not disagree with. For the vast majority of humanity; hunting is not necessary.
That doesn’t, however, invalidate history- Bears in particular have always been hunted by humans. Specifically for food, and yes their fur. Historically nothing would have been wasted, with everything being used for something- including making tools (Bones, for example, carved into knives or needles, or other tools.)
I ate bear meat once and it was delicious.
I’m also looking forward to a nice tuna melt sandwich.
Your take is retarded.
I agree with you about bear meat. I’ve had it once in my life and I enjoyed it. My cousin, the dude who killed it, didn’t make a trophy out of it. He used everything that could be used.
Would I kill a bear? No. But do I think limited hunting is evil? Also no. I’m not for wholesale slaughter of bears, that’s for sure.
I never even seen a bear in Appalachia during my childhood, not one. Good hunting laws have made it so I’ve lost count of how many I’ve seen in my adult life. They’re everywhere, including carrying trash bags out of my cans.
Same, my dad is a hunter and I believe the person above is confusing trophy hunters with just hunters. While my dad hunts, I don’t believe I could do the same. It’s just not in me, but I have all due respect for them. Many revere nature, love animals, and hunting is an ancestral activity that pre-dates history.
Some hunters are dicks. But that doesn’t mean hunting predators is a dick move. You can hunt bears responsibly, using the meat and the rest.
It’s really weird to think that predator meat is somehow different from prey meat. Food all boils down to chemistry and it all ends up the same after digestion. The only difference is the microbes involved in the process, but those don’t carry on into the meat. Only prions and parasites pass into the meat, and that happens basically no matter where you are on the food chain.
