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The regime was not attacked on October 7th. Those were innocent people that were taken hostage.

It in no way justifies Israel’s genocide or the apartheid that happened before it, but you’re acting like the hostages were running the government until October 7th.

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Let me just redirect your whole comment back to:

Resistance by Palestine is valid in any form given it’s position. Whatever worthless criticism you may have of the means of Palestinian resistance should be blamed on the Israeli regime for forcing them to this point.

The oppressed do not have the luxury of precise and swift strikes against their oppressors. We do not get to judge the systematically and brutally disadvantaged Palestine and it’s resistance not being able to capture the core government out from behind one of the most advanced militaries on the planet (backed by one of the others).

All resistance on their part is justified. And insofar as any of those deaths may have been regrettable, they should be held against the settler-colonial regime for forcing this situation into existence.

Israel’s violence against Palestine is enormously unequal, disgustingly normalized, and systematically devastating. This has been going on for decades. To sit there and finger wag them fighting back is arrogant and frankly further enabling the situation. “Oh you deserve liberation and justice but only if you do it the right and proper way!” As if they can face such an overwhelmingly unfair fight as equals.

Palestinian violence is but a reflection of Israeli violence and all fault and consequences from it lay unequivocally at the feet of Israel.

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Resistance by Palestine is valid in any form given it’s position.

In any form? So if some Palestinian person went through a maternity ward stomping on babies’ heads as a form of resistance, you’d be okay with that? Really?

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That would hardly be different than genocidal war crimes done to Palestinians by the IDF.

Palestinians would almost certainly never make it to the hospital before being gunned down, whereas Israel can march in an army to perpetuate such atrocities with relative ease.

But sure, if such a thing happened you’d not find me condemning it. Israeli colonialism and genocide would be to blame for it. If Israeli violence stopped, so too would Palestinian violence. Israel has the power here unfortunately.

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Bro, with that attitude “everything is justified against Israel”, it’s guaranteed that the conflict will still exist in 100 years. That’s the right attitude to get as many people as possible killed there.

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About one third of the Israelis killed and taken hostage on October 7 were active duty IDF soldiers. That doesn’t excuse the terrorist attacks on Civilians but it is important to point out that Israel has a much worse combatant to civilians killed ratio than Hamas or Hezbollah.

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That is not fair. “Active duty IDF soldier” is everyone in Israel once they reach a certain age. Even the ultra-orthodox are no longer exempt.

You’re talking about 18-year-olds who were conscripted taking some R&R to go to a music festival.

Again, this doesn’t excuse anything that has happened subsequently or anything Israel did before either, but it’s not like we’re talking senior leadership here.

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Soldiers in military bases along the border fence are not taking some R&R going to a music festival.

And if they are armed at the border of a region they siege, being 18 years old is not an excuse not to be considered a soldier.

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That is not fair. “Active duty IDF soldier” is everyone in Israel once they reach a certain age.

It’s completely fair to judge a fascist society by their fascism.

Do we excuse the nazis because many were indoctrinated as nazi youths? No of course not. It might give us some understanding and compassion but it’s a completely fair judgement to say it’s a sick society.

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If someone kills your family and steals your house, is it terrorism to take it back?

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Were the people they killed and kidnapped the ones who killed their family and stole their house?

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