Comment by Rhoeri@lemmy.world on Nevar Forget

News flash genius…. Most everyone here is opposed to genocide. As has been said before, you’re not part of some fringe grassroots group that figured out that genocide was bad ahead of everyone else.

Stop with that shit. I don’t believe you’re here in any good faith to help anyone in any way.

If most everyone is opposed to genocide then I agree with them and want to help them find parties and candidates that oppose it too, like psl!

What party in opposition to genocide do you support?

I’m not going to stop politely and courteously advocating for the party and candidate I think is appropriate in threads where it’s on topic in a political comm.

It might not be a good idea to accuse people of bad faith when you open up with a sarcastic insult. World is pretty strict about that stuff, it’s like their number one rule.

I accused you of bad faith because that’s what I think you are. And I think the PSL is hot garbage and that’s why no one is taking them seriously.

Is there an argument I could make from my position that wouldn’t read as bad faith to you?

You’re here trying to garner support for the hopeless psl within weeks of an election, so….

No.

I was trying to garner support for the psl here months before the election too, and years before it in real life organizing.

Just for the sake of completeness, if you can’t see a persons position as having a good faith form, doesn’t that mean you’re the person here in bad faith? If you truly believed there was no earnest true believer doctrinaire communist that was committed to their party of choice because they really thought it was the best use of their and everyone else’s time, wouldn’t you just report me as misinformation or whatever and move on?

I’ve always considered bad faith to be not the person I disagree with but the person who isnt willing to engage with anything I’m saying, to assume that there’s a human being on the other side of the capacitive predictive text thumb pad and that they have reasons behind what they’re saying that are worth listening to.

Not when they’re actively trying to undermine an election.

America is a two party system.

Someone should tell it there’s all these other parties then.

With the way our system is set up, a third party will never win. Especially when 50% of America is still backing Trump. We need a new voting system before anything can change

Even for a losing party, vote tallies are used to determine access to funding, events, media and help to raise public awareness.

We gotta start somewhere.

Or we could just vote third party and convince conservatives to vote third party as well?

Most adults are against throwing away votes on untested, unproven clowns.

Most everyone here is opposed to genocide.

Most everyone here is also voting for the Democrats, instead of agreeing to vote for a third party who is opposed to genocide

Again… everyone is against genocide. Your bad faith accusations aren’t working on anyone anymore. It’s just… cringy as fuck now.

And so you know- the third party clowns currently running have no viable end game to shut shit down over there. Go ahead and look it up. They say they do- but have no clear answer on how they’d do it that is even remotely viable. But it all looks good to the smug edgelords that think they’re somehow unique because they are against dOiNg gEnoCiDes!

What part of cutting military funding by 90% (Claudia de la Cruz’s platform) would fail to stop funding Israel?

They will have a barely above zero chance of successfully doing this. My god you people will believe anything won’t you?

I wonder why they didn’t just say they’re going to end world hunger…. Or cure cancer.

De la Cruz is a nobody that has no idea what there doing and no chance to ever see a position of authority to create let alone enact any policy that would produce meaningful change.

She’s a spoiler. And at this point- I’m beginning to think it’s purposeful.

You really think she’d have the support of Congress to do such a thing? In a system like America’s? That’s ridiculous. You should know full well such a thing would never happen even if Cruz were to magically win the presidency.

Talk is cheap, and it’s easy for third parties to say they’ll make such sweeping changes when they don’t have to actually back it up. They can tell you what you want to hear, but at the end of the day it’s all talk because such policies will never get past Congress.

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