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You receive 500 FICO credit score points and are eligible to purchase food tonight.

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It’s funny how you’re criticising me with something that the US doesn’t do, but China does. Don’t make it sound like I’m in support of the US, I wouldn’t want to live there. Probably would want to live in Sweden. But I also wouldn’t want to live in China, for different reasons. It seems like just because China claims it’s ‘socialist’, you think it must treat its citizens well. I’m all in support of true socialism. But China just uses ‘socialism’ or communism as a method to oppress, control, monitor and censor its citizens.

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I’m curious what your idea of “true socialism” is 🤔 In contrast, is “true capitalism” a thing? I’m just asking questions.

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I don’t want to put words in their mouth necessarily, they’re free to correct me, but given they said they would want to live in Sweden I would wager they are a socdem that thinks the nordic model is peak socialism.

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You can tell China doesn’t care about its people by the fact that they did zero covid for months and delivered groceries to everybody, as opposed to the enlightened and humane west, which let that shit rip and killed everyone’s grandma to make line go up

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The US absolutely does credit score, without it you can’t take a loan to buy a car or a house and many other things. It is weird that you don’t know this…

China is developing socialism, they are in the primary stage of socialism. Developing socialism is a long-term arduous process, it is not a state of mind. I recommend you reading the Governance of china by Xi Jingping, the general secretary of the CPC, it is a collection of essays and speeches by Xi with a very rich reference section, where a lot of concepts are clearly explained.

China’s economy did not get to this point by exploiting global south countries like Europe/US did, they did it by developing their own productive forces, especially after the ‘Reform and opening-up’, accepting foreign investment to learn from it and modernize the country. They did not let foreign investment run rampant, they had strict conditions that foreign investors had to follow. This is why they are constantly called authoritarian, because they did not let foreign investors run rampart.

Living, and thus working, conditions in China were terrible (and are in many places still) precisely because they were a backwards country that endured decades off exploitation by other countries. But the conditions of the people of china have been getting better and better exponentially since the opening up reform, this is simply a material reality not ‘ccp propaganda’.

Sweden is not ‘true socialism’, it is a late-stage capitalist country; an imperialist country, a country where finance capital rules. Their wealth comes from the exploitation of the global south mainly through the finance system (predatory loans to global south countries, extracting rent forever and ever), like all other european countries.

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“It WaSn’T rEaL sOcIaLiSm!1!1!1!”

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I think the word socialism has been used in so many contexts it’s lost any semblance of a ‘real’ meaning. Perhaps what I meant to say earlier is that China is fundamentally capitalist, same as USA, China just has a more oppressive government. Perhaps China does have a few aspects which are more communist, but it is overshadowed by the authoritarian nature of government.

In my ideal communist world there would be little state interference between small communes of no more than 300 people. Of course, you have to ensure that people aren’t killing or enslaving each other, but otherwise, don’t monitor for example, their internet usage - which both China and USA do, although China a little more openly, and for more things.

I think we can both agree that our ideal world would be nothing like the USA as it is today, but would your ideal communist world be more like China, my scenario, or something else entirely?

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I think this one comment alone filled a bunch of the lib bingo boxes.

I think “using big words they don’t understand to sound smart” was probably one of the squares missing from it tbh. They love have a proclivitic tendancy for doing that.

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They love have a proclivitic tendancy for doing that.

Redd White over here, but I digress

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proclivitic tendancy

That took way too long to parse with those intentional typos

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