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It quite literally is, unless you think there’s no difference between who wins in this election, in which case I would prefer you say it and save us all the time.

Ultimately, there’s no difference who wins this election. You are still going inexorably to move towards fascism and genocide, as we’ve seen in all the past elections.

Preventing something from happening in an immediate sense is still preventing it from happening,

You’re not. You’re just adding stab wounds instead of bullet wounds and say “well, better than bullets at least.”

… all the effort we put into thinking and talking about voting?

If all the dedicated people doing all the voting prep work did the direct action work, it would have improved people’s lives and you would have converted them to direct action as well. but since voting doesn’t do shit, nobody gives a shit.

Is it your opinion that we are more fascist now than we were 50 years ago, then? Or 100 years ago?

More. In fact, I think you’re one step before civil war and I doubt you will avoid it through any amount of voting.

Buying time give the potential to do something with the time bought. Not buying time doesn’t magic into existence extra options; not buying time only reduces your options.

You won’t though, because your praxis is conditioning people to think voting is the only thing that matters, since everyone is putting so much effort all the time convincing people how important it is to vote for the next thing that’s just around the corner. You don’t buy time. You just hasten fascism by not doing direct action and by putting all your energy into talking about how important voting is and begging politicians with letters.

So you do think that there’s no difference in who wins the election, and this whole conversation is pointless?

Ultimately there’s no difference for your society no. You’ll still move towards fascism and continue the genocide.

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Ultimately, there’s no difference who wins this election.

Oh, cool, I’ll remember this if Trump wins and we’re in line for the camps together. “Ha ha, this is just like it was in the good old days, under those damn Democrats, right?”

You’re not. You’re just adding stab wounds instead of bullet wounds and say “well, better than bullets at least.”

Okay. Let’s go with that analogy. With the choice of a stab wound or a .50 cal through the chest, which is preferable? Which will give you more time to deal with the problem?

More. In fact, I think you’re one step before civil war and I doubt you will avoid it through any amount of voting.

You think… the US… is more fascist now than it was in the 70s. Or the 50s. Or the 30s. Or the 10s.

Check, please!

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Oh, cool, I’ll remember this if Trump wins and we’re in line for the camps together.

You should probably resist that with something direct. Maybe some action.

Okay. Let’s go with that analogy. With the choice of a stab wound or a .50 cal through the chest, which is preferable? Which will give you more time to deal with the problem?

None so long as you keep giving thumbs up for the guy stabbing you because they’re not using a .50 cal.

You think… the US… is more fascist now than it was in the 70s. Or the 50s. Or the 30s. Or the 10s.

Ye. They were bigoted as fuck, sure. But they were not actively, blatantly as fascist as they are now.

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You should probably resist that…

My guy, I’m a fucking near-sighted cripple with a history of depression and suicide attempts. I’m not going to overwhelm any government goons with my elite hand-to-hand skills, trusting me with a gun in the long term will likely end up with my own brains splattered on the walls, and I’m not going to outshoot anyone when I’m recruited for the anarchist militia.

Have you considered maybe that NOT letting the state fall to the point where it’s erecting death camps might be a good idea?

None so long as you keep giving thumbs up for the guy stabbing you because they’re not using a .50 cal.

So which kills you faster? Being stabbed repeatedly, or being shot with a .50 cal repeatedly?

You’re continuously avoiding this because you know damn well that “Killing yourself faster” IS less desirable than “Killing yourself slower”, even using the assumptions in your own argument.

Ye. They were bigoted as fuck, sure. But they were not actively, blatantly as fascist as they are now.

Holy fuck. Jesus H. Christ. Do you have any idea just how much more authoritarian the US was in years past!?

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