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The UK has introduced the Tobacco and Vapes Bill, aiming to make it illegal for future generations to buy cigarettes. The bill proposes gradually raising the minimum smoking age, so those born after January 1, 2009, will never be able to purchase tobacco legally.

It also includes restrictions on vape flavors and packaging to prevent youth addiction and bans smoking in certain outdoor spaces, though pub beer gardens are exempt.

Supported by the Labour Party’s majority, the legislation seeks to create a “smoke-free U.K.” and combat smoking-related deaths.

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Wouldn’t that just push sales into the black market? Unless the government nationalized the sale of cigarettes, which seems… not great, if they believe in smoking cessation

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No, it wouldn’t

People working in and supporting the industry would work and consume as they always have.

It’s the business owners that would be hurting, as their entire existence depends on siphoning off the excess people are willing to pay for products and services.

Prices wouldn’t even go up. Businesses already charge the most people are willing to pay.

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I am just wondering who would do all the work of warehousing, distributing, etc., if there was no profit motive.

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Nonprofits can still have paid employees, it’s just that the company doesn’t profit; there’s no owner or shareholders extracting excess value.

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No one would farm it for profit and no one would import it for profit. Ends up with people still selling it for profit in a black or parallel market.

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Think of it like clubs for tobacco enthusiasts. Ideally you would have a club with one super knowledgeable person, split the costs of growing and his time and split the the results on potentially various types of products.

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That makes sense to me

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So kind of like how farm cooperatives work (I think?)?

There’s a guy at the farmers market that offers “shares” of cows. I can’t remember the details but you pay for a certain “guaranteed” pounds of beef plus sausage made from other parts (not guaranteed to be one cow), a long with some other meats (chicken, etc). When the cow is slaughtered, you get your meat.

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Similar idea. In a lot of states it could be done locally with many tobacco strains.

I like the idea, but the people who do split the animal deals around me take advantage of their customers… wish I have had better experiences. Used to be a couple neighbors just paid a butcher on their off hours…

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