Comment by queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml on Too soon?

There’s different reasons to not vote.

Some are disengaged. They don’t watch or read news, they often don’t even know what’s going on in the world around them.

Some are disenfranchised. There are obstacles that make voting difficult and confusing, and sometimes even impossible.

Some are dejected. After every election the Democrats mostly fail to help the people they promise to help during the elections.

Turnout is way down. We have to analyze why, not just lump them in with MAGA.

A vote not cast mathematically is equivalent to vote to the winner. There are tons of reasons one might have to abstain, but it’s their responsibility to acknowledge that them not voting against the winner helped the winner win. Now, if they don’t care that’s another matter, but that they facilitated the winner to win is true.

Do you think most Americans are even capable of thinking mathematically?

Don’t care, it’s the citizens responsibility to be informed.

Not knowing that murder is ilegal doesn’t make it legal. Not knowing circulation laws or law changes doesn’t let you avoid a fine. It’s the resposability of the people that participate in society, in driving, in a democratic process, to be properly informed. If they decide not to inform themselves they must abide by the consequences of their actions.

And it is the government’s responsibility to educate the public well enough to have the critical for thinking skills to be informed. See any connection there?

Agree that we should have good enough public education to have critical thinking but disagree that it’s its responsibility to do it, if the government won’t its the citizen’s responsibility, because in the end, if they don’t take care it will be them who suffers.

I’m all in to facilitate such with proper education but it’s the responsibility of each one to be informed.

It’s our responsibility to inform them and get them organized. If we fail, we face the consequences too.

All i know is that when i went to my friend circles and let them know i voted and why, and before the polls were even closed one of my irl friends said “I’m not even registered to vote”. i damn well better find out that he’s a secret felon or we are about to have fucking words.

Well, that too of course, 100% agree. There was no shortage of “please don’t abstain” posts around here and other social media I follow. I always preach that even if you don’t like any party, voting what you dislike the least is extremely important, alongside whatever movent you want to do in the future to change the electors. I’m from Spain and I alloy the same way of thinking around here too, just voting might not be very effective, but whatever extra should be done, ALSO vote. O accept whatever result since that’s what abstaining is.

Killing someone out of negligence is still killing and still a crime.

I don’t see why the decision to not vote wouldn’t still be a decision for whatever the outcome of not voting is.

Twist: the poster above me wanted you to vote for someone actively committing genocide

Felt like context needed to be added because your rhetoric is completely disconnected from reality

And it’s disgusting

Oh wow you’re so smart, I’m sure trump won’t do worse!

Fuck, I was hoping we were done with you people after you got what you wanted and trump won.

oooo smarm smarm

smuggy smarm smarm… lol smarm smug

That’s you. That’s what you look like.

Oh so you had nothing to say? Cool story.

I said what I had to say before your characteristically vapid input. If you want more of a reply then be more substantial as a person.

Yea, i know. And what i said still remains true. The disengaged do not care and are fine with tyranny or what ever, at least until it affects them. The careless fool. The disenfranchised were missing when they were needed most, they care, but not enough to surmount minor inconveniences. I have not heard of anyone who was prevented from voting only that it was inconvenient. The lazy fool. The dejected are people who care a lot, but know that you can never fix a system from within so why even try? The hapless fool. And then there is me. Who voted Democrat, knowing they are just a slower slide into tyranny, but did so because i believed that as long as i have any strength i must do all i can, leaving me the naive fool.

Voting for Democrats is not all you can do.

Also, no one in history has, or ever will vote fascism (or other tyranny) away.

Organize workers into militant labor unions and leverage them for political struggle. Inflation won’t go away, it’s a structural problem that comes from the collapse of the US empire. As economic conditions continue to worsen the unions will only grow larger and more powerful, regardless of what happens to the NLRB.

Already ahead of you there. I have picked up hobbies that would be valuable for this. Any particular groups that would be good to join?

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