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But that’s the problem, NTFS is not solid at all.

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14 points

It’s not?

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19 points

No it’s not. Ever tried grabbing it? You can’t. Must be liquid or something

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10 points

What’s wrong with ntfs?

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@Montagge @riskable @phoenix591 @proton_lynx It’s from Microsoft, it’s proprietary.

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I don’t necessarily see that as wrong

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I think a better question would be: “what’s not wrong with NTFS?”

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28 points

His list is so expansive he cant even list one item from it in response.

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I got curious so did some quick research. I know very little about file systems and Windows. Found this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReFS I wonder what Microsoft wanted to improve upon or change?

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10 points

Very slow, still needs defragmented, proprietary, (I know a lot of people don’t care about that but also a lot feel that proprietary software is malware) and is so unbelievably slow on hard drives. I know I said slow twice but god damn on a hard drive it’s rough. I know just get an SSD but I have a 2TB hard drive I keep my games on. It used to be on NTFS so I could dual-boot and not download a game twice but once I left windows I put ext4 on it and it helps a bit.

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I have a 2TB HDD that was ntfs and now ext4 as well. I can’t say I’ve noticed a difference, but I didn’t do any benchmarking either.

I wouldn’t consider ntfs as malware like I would something like anticheat software. As far as I know ntfs doesn’t intentionally or negligently harm, open a system to harm, or perform tasks that have nothing to do with the designed function.

Drefragging sucks I guess, but it had to be run so infrequently. I can certainly understand why someone would want to move onto something that removed the need for it.

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When I swapped from l windows to linux my at the 12+ year old pc went from needing like 15 minutes from boot to load the web browser. Linux mint cut that down to 1 minute. yes i cleaned my disk and defrag it regularly. Just less bloat and better fs

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Nothing inherently wrong with NTFS itself as a filesystem besides being proprietary, and Microsoft supplies absolutely no support for using it in Linux. All the work done to get it running in Linux has been from the ground up and it shows. Many times I’ve had a hiccup on my external drives and they completely lock up until they’re repaired on a windows machine. Unfortunately NTFS is one of the only journaled file system that works on both Windows, Apple, and Linux.

There has also been a lot of advances for filesystems like checksumming so you know when you get bitrot. Or copy-on-write which can take snapshots of a file and then further changes are stored as the difference. You can then rollback to any snapshot you’ve taken.

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Shadow copy.

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