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JD Vance said that ‘American power comes with certain strings attached’

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Oh nooooooo! The poor tax payer helping secure the planet he lives on. How tragic!

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Must be nice being a German when Americans pays for your shit.

Fucking parasites.

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Yeah because a magic border makes it so that things don’t affect all of us. Isn’t that wonderful?

I legit don’t understand how anyone can think so small.

If a fire starts in a city where everyone has your attitude, how long before it all burns down?

Whether we like it or not, borders aren’t magical lines that protect us from the damage done behind one of those lines. Humanity is responsible for the wellbeing of humanity. No silly little line is going to change that.

Imagine the consequences we’d still be suffering (yes, we. All of us) if the US hadn’t joined in WWII.

I honestly don’t understand how anyone can think of their fellow humans as parasites. We’re all in this together. One big ego with enough support can destroy all of our lives and throw us back into the dark ages.

We have thousands of years of history to guide us. Look into it.

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Sure, but it’s not the US’s job to protect the world. I’m a US citizen, and I’m not a fan of us spending ~5x vs Germany on defense, especially when Germany is such an economic powerhouse in the EU.

I would really like to cut defense spending, but for that to happen, other NATO countries need to increase their defense spending. I absolutely think we should stay in NATO (for the reasons you stated), but NATO is supposed to be an alliance, not a set of countries protected by the US. Yes, it’s in our interest to protect the EU, but it’s also in the EU’s interest to protect the US. We should have each other’s back.

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solid understanding how european security works right here ;)

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