@sabazius @Zagorath I get that, but it’s also one of the reasons single boss fights continue to “just work” in the system instead of the PCs getting off a save or die effect.

I’m pretty sure not having something like it would be fairly unfun for the GM though.

I kind of resent how Incapacitation makes my spell lists all look the same. Fear, Command, and Slow all show up on every single spellcaster because they’re all worthwhile enemy facing spells that can change the fight, usually better than spells loaded up that incapacitate. Primal gets some neat tools, but they’re worthless if your teammates don’t care about skirmishing and only want to go in.