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The left, the real socialist left doesn’t have political capital. So there’s nothing to burn. Incremental policy is great to alleviate suffering, but ultimately is masturbatory. Fascism will eventually overcome America. This explains why. Waiting for real, substantial policy changes with climate change happening is denialism. We’re waiting for enough people to realize this so we can organize and fight for the future.

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I found that argument very unconvincing.

I think the author’s definition of fascism is nonsensical and ahistorical.

I agree that capitalism has the tendency to concentrate power (like every other social or political system ever in the history of humans), but the idea that we should just abandon the levers of power to the kind of people who want Donald Trump to be president is so insane to me.

The author even concedes that Donald Trump is uniquely bad but then bends over backwards trying to get back to his comfortable “both sides” narrative

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I agree that it is insane to concede power to fascism. I have kids and will be voting for Biden for this reason. I’m aware that when full fascism comes, it will not be pretty. But I also understand that capitalism will eventually decay into fascism. So, I am sympathetic to those that want to do something outside the system of just voting. I’m not trying to change your mind. I’m just trying to make people understand the situation we’re in.

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Well I’m glad I don’t have to have the Cornel West argument here.

I think we agree that the whole Earth is in a dangerous and precarious situation and far too many people are still not acknowledging this?

Do you disagree that Biden has delivered more policy for the Left as a whole than any president since LBJ?

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So … all capitalism is fascism; therefore “both sides are the same”; therefore reject incremental progress as illegitimate?

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Incremental progress is not illegitimate. It’s just never going to be enough to solve the problem that is capitalism. If it were, the New Deal would have fixed this system and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

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Ok…so because the New Deal didn’t… overthrow capitalism forever… therefore working within the system is pointless?

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