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And the Nordic countries just don’t exist?

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Social democracies aren’t socialism. They have unions, co-ops, but they don’t own the means of production. They are capitalism with heavy regulation and strong social policies. And they are already regressing. If we were a more socially democratic, my opinion might be different, But, historically, the reality that capitalism decays into fascism would still be true.

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Why do you assume that socialist systems won’t also experience a gravitational pull towards fascism? In my opinion that’s universal across all political systems. Also aren’t all extant “state owns the means of production” counties quite fascist?

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Wow, you’re really going there. I agree with your thinking. I think of it this way. Would I rather deal with climate change under a capitalist/fascist dictatorship with overconsumption and excess growth. Or would I rather deal with climate change under a tankie dictatorship with a planned economy that limits consumption and growth. I’ll pick the Marxist Leninist one. I’d rather it be an anarcho communist one. But with multiple factions vying for power and trying to control huge populations, that may not be possible.

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At least read what he posted before replying. We don’t need to build another reddit where people just rage at each other on behalf of their team.

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For the record, when I posted that reply the parent only read “yes 🙌”

I was saltier than I would like to be in retrospect though, I cut it out of a comment.

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