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Openly advocating genocide and eugenics? Yeah, definitely not what I would call useful

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If you read “Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity” as eugenics and genocide, I think you might be jumping the gun a bit based on personal biases. Population bottlenecks require you to be very careful about species-wide gene pools. In a population of 10,000, you don’t want Cletus reproducing with his first cousin.

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Pretty sure it was

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

You can’t maintain a population like that without birth restrictions, slaughter, or restricting resources. And this is humanity we’re talking about. The ruling class/ethnicity will prioritize their own making genocide an all but certain outcome.

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Yeah, but the other option is humanity grows to reach an industrial carrying capacity which would be horrific for the environment, and people. The average person would live at the poverty level of a medieval peasant in the polluted environment of industrial slums. There would also be mass famines every couple decades like back under the agricultural carrying capacity, but these would kill billions instead of hundreds of thousands. Mandatory birth control sucks but it beats the suffering caused by rampant population growth.

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I’m gonna have to go digging for the source, I’ll edit it once I find it. The creator of the guide stones wanted his identity protected but people found out who he was. Dudes real big into eugenics, it’s 100% telling people to do Eugenics and not at all concerned with population bottlenecks

Edit: could’ve sworn I’d read an article about it but it was apparently this episode of last week tonight.

TL;DW: it’s not 100% confirmed who the person that commissioned the guide stones is but it’s likely Dr. Herbert Kirsten, a man who was very outspoken in his support.for David Duke.

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The only way you get a “population bottleneck” of 500 million from our current 8 billion is genocide. Even the world population in 1980 when these were erected was 4.5 billion. Still would have required genocide.

“Guiding reproduction” is definitely a euphemism for eugenics. Don’t be naive.

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Or nuclear near-annihilation, which was a definite concern when these were erected. Or a pandemic.

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I’ll take nature over 7.5 billion people including myself. What we’ve done to this planet is shameful and never should have gotten to this point.

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Yeah that’s eugenics, guy. Eugenics loves dictating who can and cannot reproduce based on potential genetic factors passed to their offspring. Kind of the cornerstone.

The guy who built the Guidestones was very likely a KKK fan. Doesn’t deserve much benefit of the doubt.

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So it’s eugenics to say that incest is bad?

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You could argue the opposite, genocide would be guiding reproduction away from diversity.

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