Mother among 20 of the big cats flown in from Africa as part of plan to reintroduce animal to country
Everyone is to be blamed. From us consumers who buy materialistic stuff to people who manufacture it. Everyone should be punished.
It’s not like average people really have a lot of choice in the matter. You can’t practically avoid buying materialistic garbage, because you need stuff just to live, and there aren’t non-shitty alternatives. The blame lies almost exclusively with corporations that took the easiest, cheapest routes in order to maximize profits.
Right.
Corporations didn’t have to say, ship manufacturing to China, where environmental regulations are … lax, and use giant polluting container ships to move good back and forth. But that was cheaper and more profitable than domestic production.
The pattern repeats across a thousand different examples. It always comes down to businesses being able to externalize environmental impact and a complicit government allowing it.
people could stop flying for leisure - they could stop using their car for every trip that could also be made by bike - they could vote for politicians that are actually campaigning for changing stuff instead of promising people to keep their lifes as it is - they could stop eating meat every day
there’s a lot of stuff a single person can choose to not do that would result in huge change if enough people did it since that would actually allow even moderate politicians to change things that actually matter.
if a politician right now is even thinking about banning beef or tripling the price of gas and making flights even more expensive than that they can pretty much start looking for another job since that would be a huge change for a huge part of the population - if enough people started deliveratly foregoing beef or using the most convenient option possible then we might have a chance.
the problem is that people are fucking lazy and a lot of them are egoistic, too - so everyone just claims that others have to change first…
and then there are those “bUt ChInA1!1!”-guys that totally ignore that china is building more renewables each month than any other country does per year and that they still pollute less per person than western countries and also less in total over the last 150 years than western countries, too.
it’s people in the US or Europe that have to lead the charge since they are the ones that profited MASSIVELY from the pollution 100 years ago that led us into this mess…
People in the US are trying to change things. Most new homes in my area have a strong emphasis on green technology including heat pumps and solar panels. There’s a big push for EVs over ICEs and there are more and more EV charging stations all over the country every year. The younger generations are calling for more train transportation and Amtrak in my area is actually making some changes to help promote passenger rail.
Your ‘blame the west’ mentality is some serious PRC propaganda bullshit. 0 of the top 20 most polluted cities in the world are western cities. Most of them are in India, which is actually where these Cheetahs died.
You want to blame someone? Blame the international elite. The 0.1% takes what they want, consequences be damned.
That’s a drop in the bucket compared with emissions from super-polluters. Even if I rode my bicycle everywhere–which isn’t practical for where I live–and even if every one of the 5000 people in my town did the same, that still wouldn’t offset Taylor Swift’s jet habit for a week.
Not just corporations, governments as well. As an American it pisses me off that we’ve spent all of my life debating whether or not it’s real while doing next to nothing, improving milage and emissions is nice but we need to stop and not only for passenger vehicles either trucking and shipping really need to stop their pollution as well. And that’s where governments can come in. They can fund r&d and make rebates at the time of purchase so that it’s easier to make a change. Instead we have dipshits that think because it snows global warming is fake.
Most poor people in the West have huge carbon footprints because what they can afford to buy is cheap and imported from countries like China and, if they can afford a car, it’s not likely to be a hybrid or an electric. What else can they do? Should we expect the poor to live shittier lives when the people who are doing the vast majority of the damage are allowed to keep going?
for one people could just stop eating meat - or stop treating flying as a normal thing you do for holiday
the problem is that most people think others are to blame for one reason or anoher and don’t see that literally everyone has to change…
this whole thing is just a huge prisoner’s dilemma and noone will make the first move in fear of others not moving and exploiting that situation in the short term while ignoring that they are fucking over the planet in the long run…
Right, all of those poor people who take airplanes on their vacations…
What the fuck are you talking about?
I hear ya! I don’t have a car, so I walk to/from work everyday or take the bus if I have to go further than I can walk. I was surprised to learn that some people thought I was being “holier-than-thou” by not driving. I’m not trying to be a “saint” or whatever, I just can’t fit a car and all its related expenses into my budget!
That’s not true. We have on record oil and gas companies having studied and internal communication they know climate change is coming. Yacht, private jets, and cruises cause a majority of carbon emmissions. Billionaires are the ones who have yachts and jets and a billionaire owns cruise companies. Musk is the most prominent, but other car manufacturers have lobbied against the building of public transportation.
We know there is a disproportionate amount of pollution coming from companies. I think we all do need to play a part, but if you want actual meaningful and quick change it needs to come from these companies. You know, these companies that were ruled as “people”. These companies like Amazon who have more money and power than small countries. It’s on these “people” to lead us into clean emissions but they aren’t.
I don’t think yachts, private jets and cruises cause the majority of carbon emissions. Even if they are entirely frivolous and unnecessary.
It is no where close to anywhere we working class produce. They have the brunt of blame, and thus responsibility. And you can go ahead and search for cruise ships. They should not exist. They are a nightmare for the environment and people.
Why are you here preaching to us about carbon footprints when you yourself are wasting electricity doing so?
