Dumb Trump supporters raise mortgage rates, reduce money for Social Security and Medicare, and Make America A Laughing Stock.

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Most of us don’t like Trump, most of us don’t like the bombings in other countries, most of us didn’t want to be in Vietnam, most of us didn’t want us to be in Iraq.

I don’t look at every person in the UK and assume you all love the Monarchy and love the current and past two morons you have had running the place. I mean fuck Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss, and Boris Johnson and Brexit? Shit isn’t lookin great over that way either but I don’t assume it’s because every single citizen of the UK wanted it that way. Quit looking at America like one big collective individual and take a moment to realize that the system here is rigged to shit from years of political fuckery. We are stuck with a two party system and the past two presidents who did the most damage to our foreign relations and our political system didn’t even win the fucking popular vote.

Oh and if I incorrectly assumed you nationality just fill in the appropriate bullshit that is probably happening in your current country.

Sincerely,

One of the majority of Americans that don’t like what is happening in this country either

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What, come on, everyone knows that having four prime ministers in two years is the sign of a stable government.

The monarchy in charge would probably result in a better political situation to be honest.

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Did their government change? Did the military take over? No, the timing party just decided to elect a new front man to distract the population while the Tories resort and pillage society

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most of us didn’t want to be in Vietnam, most of us isn’t didn’t want us to be in Iraq.

I think change starts by taking an honest assessment of the situation, and the statement above is easily disproven:

It doesn’t matter that public support shifted later - of course people feel bad about doing something bad after the fact. But at the time, most Americans did want you to be in Vietnam and most Americans did want you to be in Iraq.

I’m sure that the people in your social circle do disagree with those wars and do disagree with some of the more recent things which have happened, but you need to understand that sometimes the majority does sadly support some very bad things.

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We don’t make the decision to go to war the government does that without our input. The public supported for the war in Iraq after the government decided to go to war then spread propaganda saying that Iraq was related to 9/11. Those are graphs of how effective propaganda was on those polled after the government made a decision to go to war… we don’t vote on that shit.

It doesn’t matter that public support shifted later - of course people feel bad about doing something bad after the fact.

That is the propaganda losing the battle. People found out that the person (supposedly) responsible for 9/11 was in Afghanistan and had nothing to do with Iraq.

Vietnam was the same but it took longer for the general public to find out the truth. The government decides to go to war and spreads propaganda everywhere about why we needed to go to Vietnam. Propaganda weakens as real information about the war spreads then people no longer support the war.

Americans are not just inherently warmongering people I don’t think any citizens of any country are…unless their government has a super effective propaganda machine constantly brain fucking them into being that way (see Russia).

I’m sure that the people in your social circle do disagree with those wars and do disagree with some of the more recent things which have happened, but you need to understand that sometimes the majority does sadly support some very bad things

My social circles? I live in the Midwest there are people in my neighborhood with flags up that say “Fuck Biden Don’t blame me I Voted for Trump” in their front yards here. I have seen the worst of Americans and they are not the majority even here. There are some dumb fuck gravy seals that cosplay as soldiers and act like war is a solution to anything and everything but most of the people here who support Trump and have that “America first” mindset are just well meaning morons that fell prey to propaganda.

I am well aware that propaganda works champ the idea that there are brief periods of support for such things somehow cancels that the majority of the time the majority of everyone doesn’t support such things is moronic.

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First:

most of us didn’t want us to be in Iraq.

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The public supported for the war in Iraq

What you’re saying is there was a period of time where the war had support of the public. This is what Deceptichum is saying is not normal. There should not be any period where the majority of Americans thought invading Iraq was a good idea. This part is what the problem is.

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Most of you vote for this every fucking time.

Stop acting like you’re not responsible for the state of your own country; fucking pathetic.

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No we fuckin don’t. You are ignorant as to how things work here. Go read then formulate an educated opinion or just shut up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

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Oh fuck off mate, accept a bit of responsibility in your pathetic life.

No one else on this planet is responsible for America except Americans.

You allow this system to flourish and support it year after year. Just because a small percentage of your population can’t vote doesn’t mean shit when you were founded without the right to vote.

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No, we actually don’t. You’re entirely wrong.

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Yes you actually do.

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Hillary won the popular vote by QUITE a bit.

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And I’d be laughing at you if she was your president as well.

What a disgrace they’ve all been.

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