Chris Packham debunks Tory lies about new oil and gas in the North Sea(www.youtube.com)

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Chris Packham is a national treasure.

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mondoman712@lemmy.ml

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1 year ago

This is much better than him spreading lies about HS2.

Edit: nevermind I got to the part of the video where he is…

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mondoman712@lemmy.ml

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1 year ago

Here’s a good video debunking Packham’s lies about HS2, the assertion that it wasn’t designed by railway experts is a new one to me and is pretty absurd. I fully agree with transitioning away from oil and we need a massive increase in rail capacity (HS2) so we can stop driving so much. To me, straight up opposing HS2 is against his environmental aims and Packham’s use of misinformation on HS2 hurts his credibility.

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Jackthelad@lemmy.world

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1 year ago

His support of Just Stop Oil doesn’t help his credibility much either.

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frazorth@feddit.uk

6 points

1 year ago

How does supporting Just Stop Oil not help his cause? They seem like they would be right up his street.

The only problem with Just Stop Oil is that they are like PETA, in that they are too extreme for people to join in with, but fundamentally they aren’t wrong and help shift the Overton Window.

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Jackthelad@lemmy.world

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1 year ago

Their actions drive more people away from their cause, rather than encouraging more support. Surely that’s the opposite of what you want if your aim is to achieve change.

Annoying ordinary people is not going to get you very far.

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frazorth@feddit.uk

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1 year ago

Completely disagree.

I have not met anyone who disagrees with their aim, just the methods.

If history is anything to go by, you need to have these more extreme groups to move the Overton Window allowing other, gentler, groups to be engaged.

Suffragists & Suffragettes. MLK & the Black Panthers.

Northern Ireland required the IRA. Not that the IRA was engaged but their presence meant that other groups would be engaged.

Most people disagree with PETAs methods, but their presence means that animal welfare groups are engaged.

Someone has to be the “bad cop”.

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