Sorry to post my shitty neofetch to this community

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Google “Only spy the web” is highly inaccurate…they are everywhere. In every website, in your android phone, in your YouTube, in your Google drive, in your email, in your Google maps…

Anyways… I will calm down now. :)

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In your car, your TV, your network, your dns…

Everywhere.

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They are even part of paying for the massive underwater cables between continents that all internet traffic runs through.

They took everything over.

It’s the most extensive surveillance network in the world.

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Literally 1984.

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Who is accessing the cables/data has never been more important, it’s literally the difference between being in or out of reach of the law.

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It’s cute, people think their android os isn’t collecting an embarrassing amount of data. Even if you turn everything off but cellular, it still phones home with cellular tower triangulation, app usage, call history, general web activity, weather the phone thinks your walking driving or riding a Bike, device diagnostics, etc.

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Yes but we do what we can.

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demand compensation we should be paid for it

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Same, I wish there was a better options. I’m on android right now but when it comes time to upgrade I always try to choose the lesser evil and it’s hard.

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I wish there was a paid google of no spying… I mean what does google one get me, but the ability for google to spy on more or my data?

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Everyone thinks about the spying as relating to themselves, the individual.

Google doesn’t give a shit about you. Google gives a shit about us. Collectively. They can monitor the collective soul of the world. When people are busy, when they’re not paying attention, when they’re mad, who, and for how long; how they react to certain subjects…how to get them to listen about certain subjects, how to bring them around to certain subjects, how to keep them disagreeing with other viewpoints, etc.

They’re literally developed “a remote control for the flock” and everyone’s out here like “why do I care if Google see my save games I have 500 hours in CoD so wut”

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They’re really good at providing value for your data, I feel the same way about YouTube premium. I do it to better support creators and remove ads but they probably have one of the most detailed profiles on me.

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For me, it is useful. At the very least, such a blatant display of tracking information means people will know about it and disable it if necessary.

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It should be an opt in feature, but it has helped me a couple times. I got beat up pretty bad after leaving a bar and couldn’t remember anything about the night, was able to retrace my steps from the google stuff.

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Oh that’s spooky. What phone do you have? I was almost gonna say that it’s likely a pixel thing, but I have one too, so idk why they would brag with your data.

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Its baked into Google Maps.

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in your android phone

And if you try to revoke their spying access on a rooted stock device, they force a reboot ☹️

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Hence GrapheneOS sandboxing the Play Store. It is ironic that Google is the only phone manufacturer that allows for installing a different OS. But I suppose the fact that GrapheneOS has pushed security updates that have made it into stock Android and the fact that most users won’t bother installing an alternative OS on their pixel phones is why they allow such shenanigans.

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I use rooted LineageOS on my 4a 5G, though I do still have GApps on it. Next phone I buy I’m thinking I’ll give GrapheneOS a try. Leaving behind my rooted system level adblocking would be difficult for me though.

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Can users who use Google Fi switch too? Will call screening still work?

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I use alternative for all google services.

YouTube - piped.video

Google drive - Mega Drive or Anonfile

G-Mail - Proton

Google Map - OSM (Open Street Map)

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I think you meant:

Google maps - OSM

and

Google Search Engine - almost a thing else (duckduckgo)

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Yea, But my search engine is ecosia.org

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It would be fun if some government required companies that off free services to disclose how they make money and allow each user to see their particular value. This might help open some eyes…

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open their eyes to what? the fact it costs money to run a service? its either some data mining or everything costing a helluva lot more. and im sure youd complain about prices too.

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and im sure youd complain about prices too

A universal claim only takes one case to disprove, and I’ll be that case: you’re wrong. I actually seek out the pay services and cut out the “free” ones.

My real complaint is when the huge companies offer a paid plan, but then still try to double dip and abuse my data and I. So I leave for the smaller guys who have an actual reputation to protect and so have garnered some trust. The hard part are things like google street view, or youtube, where competition is way behind due to the sheer inertia that incumbents have (e.g., creators using youtube due to the huge potential audience).

Other thing hard to ditch for me is android, as I really don’t like how tightly locked down apple’s walled garden is - not being able to run real firefox with my choice of extensions is a showstopper for any mobile platform.

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How much money do you think a single user is worth? I can’t imagine it’s anything valuable

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@WldFyre @CCatMan

Each user is roughly $200/year for Facebook Iirc.

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Services are free on the internet because people pay with their attention and data instead. A single user is much more valuable than you think, especially the recurring ones.

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And not just google stuff, the big companies are for sure in exchange so if you do something on instagram, google will know it for sure.

Therefor im trying to step away from google, here are my alternatives to the google services:

Google drive -> Nextcloud Gmail -> Tutanota Youtube -> (im still using this) Maps -> Open Street Map Authenticator -> Aegis Chrome -> Librewolf/Firefox Passwords -> Bitwarden

(All of these alternatives are just my own preferences and what I daily use)

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For youtube, there’s libre frontends like newpipe and piped (but of course you are still using youtube)

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Sure, but all of those, except the phone (and TV mentioned in another comment), are part of the web.

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started uploading pics to maps as a ‘guide’ back in 2000s. G has sent me a few trinkets over the years(coveted lego phone stand). a level 8 guide, w/e that means. millions of pic views. what do I care. it’s a hobby. Moved a home phone line to Voice. Get email transcript of any voice mails. set it to do not disturb. phone never rings. voicemail or nothing. I use them for free. They use me. Or think they do

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