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I agree with all the other comments here but I want to add one more to it.

Itā€™s nationalism. Mostly american nationalism, but also a ā€œwesternā€ nationalism that is basically ā€œi support the imperial coreā€, aka the ā€œinternational communityā€.

Everyone that properly gives up on nationalism and becomes an internationalist does not fall into this groupā€™s mindset. There are internationalists that disagree with us on many things but they donā€™t see us with this childish analysis of good vs evil (where the US and the imperial core are on the side of good).

This nationalism that resides deep down is also a major difference between scratched libs becoming fascists vs scratched libs that do not. Also a major aspect between those who ā€œsupport Ukraineā€(nationalism) and those who want an end to the war.

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This is what people miss when they describe it. They are not just not knowing, they have been taught all of the life that the western camp is right and that all other are lying. They believe that they are better. Also than indigenous people. This is why they dismiss them so easily.

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We arenā€™t doing enough to target nationalism and promote internationalism and I keep saying it in the hopes that someone will come along with like better ideas than I have that translates to better propaganda. We have a lot of effective tools for being anti cop or anti troops or anti america or anti racism etc etc but I rarely come across anything that is anti-nationalism. I think itā€™s one of the biggest things we ought to be doing but I donā€™t know effective tools for it.

Once we get people over the hump and out of nationalism this shit will become so much easier.

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