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Telegram and Signal are dangerous because China cant see what people do in there…

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Telegram isn’t e2e encrypted.

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It’s optional, you can make it e2e encrypted with the secret chat option, which the CCP doesn’t like.

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They roll their own crypto which is a big no-no in information security.

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which means it’s not on, by default.

which just means it’s not

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You don’t need e2e encryption of the servers are hosted in a jurisdiction your government can’t reach.

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I know but they don’t work with governments so they can’t really do shit.

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That’s very debatable. Their transparency report channel is empty, where there are verified reports of them sharing data. My problem is not so much that they comply with court orders, but the lack of transparency. That’s definition of shady behaviour.

https://restoreprivacy.com/telegram-sharing-user-data/

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