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OW2 is free, they’re probably referring to buying OW1 only for them to shut it down and rerelease the same exact game but with battlepass characters.

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Okay but we got like 5 years of free updates for OW1. If they had an option to play 6v6 and locked out the new characters, that would basically be “the game you paid for”.

I mean, I hate the 5v5 too, but I can’t say I didn’t get my money’s worth for OW1.

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“Got my money’s worth”

Seriously, why do people bend over backwards to justify getting shafted by companies. The game was active and still running, they yanked it to try to make more money off OW2. They could have left it running and just stopped making new content for it, but they were greedy.

Unless they’re paying you to go around posting support, you are a sucker trying to justify getting shafted by corpo greed.

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Okay let’s not go nuts with the revisionism. Ow1 was NOT active. In fact, judging by my (admittedly anecdotal) queue times, ow2 is a lot more active as I’m waiting usually a quarter of how long I would have waited in 1.

Also side note, but I find it hilarious how both narratives of “this is the same as ow1!” And “They deleted ow1 forever” are being run with simultaneously lmao.

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I’m just old enough to remember when you bought a game and that was the whole game, not the game plus years and years of free content. I paid like $30 for OW1 at the first anniversary (or was it second? whichever), then didn’t drop a dime into it. Got a bunch of new characters and maps and balance tweaks for free after launch. For other games that would be DLC, or back in the '90s paid boxed expansions.

Yes, OW2 has been a big let-down. If I had to pay up-front for it? I wouldn’t. I haven’t put a dime into OW2 and I won’t because of the company’s problems.

But in terms of its relationship with OW1? I’m mostly a satisfied customer. I can still play Overwatch, I still have all the drops I got in OW1, and I got many years of complimentary loot in OW1.

Now, would I have preferred to get stuff at the rate I did in OW1? Of course. But I’m also realistic that this isn’t a sustainable business model, especially if they want to go f2p. Also paying for random loot boxes is increasingly illegal in many places, so no matter what they had to switch to a cash shop at least partially (but afaik random drops would’ve still been legal, but still - sustainable business model, remember?)

My biggest complaint is that they didn’t keep OW1 (2-2-2 with weaker tanks) as a mode in the arcade of Ow2.

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If they wanted to make a free OW2, they should have actually made an OW2 and left the original alone instead of tearing it down and putting a new coat of paint on it

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Personally I’d be happier if I could.

I went from playing a lot when it had a lot of updates, to rarely when it stopped. And now never playing with the complete disrespect blizzard has for the players after 2 was released.

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