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Indeed. How dare people have a different interpretation of geopolitical events? Don’t they know that world events are all straightforward cartoonish good vs evil storylines where the good guys are 200% good and the bad guys are 300% bad?

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There is only one interpretation of an event like one country invading and stealing territory from another.

Russia invaded Ukraine and stole Crimea.

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Nobody is contesting what happened, they’re contesting why it happened.

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Why is irrelevant. Imagine if people argued over if a murderer killed someone because they felt like it or because they looked at them funny. See how pointless the question is? Do you understand how no sane person would argue about that?

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Why is because Putin is a greedy ass.

(And does anybody have a suggestion for better hosts to move my account to?)

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Yeah, the Iraq war wasn’t that bad either, Saddam was asking to be invaded. There were lots of grounds to prevent the unification of Vietnam too, you need to look at the geopolitical interpretations of the event /s

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Good job proving my point by posting examples of popular positions in the US that turned out to be bullshit. So yeah, the different interpretations turned out to be right. If this was 2003, I’m sure I’d be shouted down, mocked, down-voted, and called a “tankie” (or, I suppose “terrorist lover” to be more accurate to the time) for saying we shouldn’t invade Iraq because clearly the only correct interpretation is that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction.

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Cool, I’m not american, so I too disagreed with the invasion at the time, as did most people and governments in Europe and most American allies at the time warned the US not to do it. The american justification for invading was bullshit, as is russia’s. The difference is that nobody stood up to the US at the time and now there are a group of countries that at least have an interest in helping Ukraine uphold international law.

Between then and now, nothing changed in international law, I’m just applying it consistently. As you said, bullshit geopolitical reasons to invade a country can be brewed till the end of time, but starting a war with another country is objectively the greatest war crime, because it paves the way for the lawlessness that enables millions of other war crimes, like murder, rape, torture, forced deportation.

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So you’re okay with having nazis and pedos to encourage “different interpretation”?

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nazis and pedos? What the hell are you talking about?

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Just a different interpretation, bro.

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What’s wrong with this comment section is that most of the people chiming in have an opinion wholly formed by the nightly news program they watch and nothing else. I’d rather have universal health care than spend a trillion dollars every year policing ten other countries, personally.

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I’d rather have universal health care than spend a trillion dollars every year policing ten other countries

The US spends more per-capita on healthcare than almost every other country. Making sure a free nation isn’t overrun by Russian invaders is not the reason the US healthcare system sucks.

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Correction: The US spends more per-capita lining the pockets of health insurance execs than every other country.

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What’s ‘tanky’ is arguing for your own impoverishment, which is what you’re doing when you try to defend our country spending a trillion a year on war in ten other countries.

And then another 100+ billion on another country’s war, that we’re not even fighting in. That 100 billion could keep people cool in a heat wave, or fix a state’s broken power grid, or put clean water in Flint, Michigan. But no, you’d rather we neglect our own people instead.

War spending is 100% why we don’t have universal health care in this country, and we are the only country dropping a trillion-plus a year.

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