This is in regard to Lemmy.world blocking piracy communities from other instances. This post is not about whether you agree with the decision. It’s about how the admins informed their users.

A week ago Lemmy.world announced their Discord server. This wasn’t very well received (about 25% downvotes, which is rather bad compared to other announcements). The comments on that post were turned off, presumably to avoid backlash.

Before that, announcements about the instance used to be posted to !lemmyworld@lemmy.world. This time, the information was posted on the Discord server instead.

I don’t agree with this. Having to use a proprietary platform to participate in an open-source one goes against the very purpose for me, especially when the new solution isn’t really an improvement (as before the information about the platform was closer to it).

Edit: Corrected the announcements community name.

Update: Lemmy.world finally released an announcement and promised they would inform about similar actions and gather feedback in advance in future.

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I’m really not happy with using Discord at all for any organisation open to outside users. We got Lemmy for posts about, well, Lemmy. We got something like Mastodon for external updates.

Use what is there.

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Also there is Matrix as a direct federated replacement for discord. No reason not to use it.

EDIT: After doing a bit more digging, it’s not running on activitypub so not compatible wit the fediverse, but it does run on a federated model.

Although given that both are open protocols, it should in theory be possible to write an adaptor or an update to make them compatible.

EDIT 2: nope lol

Edit 3: idk why I let myself be mislead and I don’t remember what I looked up, but Matrix specifically says it is federated: https://spec.matrix.org/latest/

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Matrix is not part of the fediverse. I don’t know where people got this idea, but I keep seeing it mentioned on Lemmy. It’s just a decentralized messaging software

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They’re just conflating FOSS but honestly it really sort of is. Mastodon and lemmy are pretty fucking different. Is ActivityPub what denotes something being fediverse?

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After looking into it, it is federated but not activitypub, so it may not technically be part of the fediverse.

Edit: i did a bad job researching this, but this is true to the best of my knowledge.

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With Matrix (at least as far as I understand), if you aren’t logged in when the message is posted you can’t actually decrypt it. I think Matrix would actually be worse than Discord for an announcement like this.

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This is wrong. I’m on matrix both on my computer and phone. If I’m not logged in, and conversations are made during that time I can log in and it decrypts all the messages letting you pick up where you left off.

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That sounds broken to the point of absurdity. Where did you hear that?

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This is not true at all. I’m using Element, a matrix client and I’m part of lots of communities. I check it a few times per week and of course i can see all messages.

Install Element and join a server and you will see. It’s actually pretty nice.

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