All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

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Industrial design is about tradeoffs

Nope, for battery removal, nope!
Are you going to say that pentalobe screws is also a trade-off.

Also, smartphone are just too thin and it’s because you use a case that you tend to forget about it.

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It’s fine to say that the tradeoff doesn’t matter to you because you’re fine with the extra size, but it’s kind of absurd to claim that there’s no tradeoff and also claim that the tradeoff isn’t a big deal in the same comment. Some people may prefer the slimmer size that non-removable batteries allow, and we should at least accept that a downside of this regulation is that those people will be left with fewer thin options, even if it doesn’t seem like a big deal to you or I.

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My phone has a removable battery and it’s like 7-8mm thick.

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I take in account what has been done by the past in the last decade, a Samsung Note 4 (8cores, 4Gb, etc…) had its battery easily replaceable and it is not any bigger than an iPhone 14!

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Sorry, but that’s an awful comparison, and it isn’t even true. The Note 4 was actually ~10% thicker than the base iphone 14, despite having a smaller screen, slightly smaller battery, and not having waterproofing. Obviously most of that discrepancy is because the Note 4 is 8 years older than the iPhone 14 so it really isn’t a fair comparison, but I wasn’t the one that tried to make the comparison in favor of the Note 4.

We really don’t have any reason to disagree, we’re both in support of the new law. I agree with you that the drawbacks are probably going to be minimal and that the tradeoffs will likely be worthwhile, I just still think that it’s dishonest to say that we know for certain that there will be absolutely no drawbacks, or that phones with no drawbacks have existed. I’m just asking for a little bit of nuance instead of dogmatism.

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You’ll still want a case even if the phone becomes thicker, so in the end you’ll still end up with more bulk?

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where did you live the last 10years when battery were replaceable on highend smartphones?

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Replied to the wrong comment?

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