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this comes up in math too. there are many situations where we don’t need mathematical objects to be platonic copies to treat them “equally” so we work with equivalence relations instead.

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but obviously there is a bigger difference between men and women, than between men and women themselves. Quite sure that’s the relevant bit…

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there is a bigger difference between men and women, than between men and women themselves.

This is completely unquantifiable and therefore unprovable

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what about physical strength and the inclination for socialization? These traits vary on both genders, but generally all men are physically strong, all women are physically weak(er); and generally all women have inclination for socialization, all men have less inclination for socialization.

Other traits that largely vary within one gender, probably also largely vary between genders, so these cancel out.

I might be wrong about this last point though, but to just shrug this off as if this is taken completely out of the blue and rarely intuitively observed in day-to-day life, is not fair.

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Time and time again studies that specifically research differences in women and men find that in-group differences are bigger than between-group differences. There are really very few traits were it is different.

Still people blow these differences out of proportion because some people have a huge interest in keeping the illusion that these two groups of people are different.

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Why would it be obvious? You can just as easy postulate the opposite. What are we measuring as difference?

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2 kidneys, a liver, a heart, a brain.

Looks exactly the same to me. What are these “big differences” you’ve invented?

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I said bigger, not big.

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treat them equally? But you probably don’t want to give menstrual items to a man

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that’s what I meant. You wouldn’t give them to whoever not needed them. I called them man, you called them people without uterus. In other words, you don’t want to treat all equally.

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Treating someone equally is to give them equal value and respect as you’d give anyone else, it’s to not devalue them based on gender, race, etc. It’s the same as it’s been since Dr. King talked about the content of someone’s character instead of the color of their skin.

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sure, no one is denying that. I was just jumping in on specifics of how that would look like, for example, when giving certain items.

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