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I don’t think they did, at least the majority. I think the ghouls fantasy victory never included Ukraine winning. Instead i think the fantasy some of them believed was that if they prolonged the war, a la the Soviet-Afghan war, they could get a revolt/overthrow of the Russian Federation and install a US puppet regime.

Equally as delusional as a Ukrainian victory, but i think it fits into the kind of US NatSec ghoul delusion of US power.

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I too think that was their plan. To big them down in a forever unwinnable war, cripple their economy with heavy sanctions and de-couple Russia form the rest of Europe.

However I don’t think they expected most of the world to not go along with it and their economy to cushion the blow.

Their military industrial complex still made a giant amount of profit though. I also think they now know that the NATO countries will just about go along with anything the US wants even if it hurts their own economy.

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